I am seriously thinking that If I was forced to choose I'd have to say God. Being raised a diehard Catholic,I also studied Theolgy in Catholic Prep School. The Eastern religions and well as many Theologians and Philosophers.I actually consider myself a sort of novice Philosopher. I respect the Jewish Faith more so than Bible-thumping Southern Baptists. Because Jewish Rabbi's are far more knowledgable and reaching in their ability to interpret God and his Dominion.I sometimes weary towards Jesus freaks. Jesus freaks or those Protestant faiths who dwell exclusively in the Bible are not rational at times.I need the rationality of a Saint Thomas Acquinas or Augustian. Immensely great thinkers of Christlike Grace within humanity. I now believe that God is foremost with regards to worship over Jesus. Like The Jewish faith has always held.God is Creator and hence created his own Son. Jesus did not Create the earth.Or the heavens.Or the Universe. Jesus helped to create an understanding on Earth as to how magnificient and ALL Powerful the Father of all Fathers or God was,is and shall remain forevermore.
The holy trinity suggests they are one. Jesus is God, God is Jesus, the Holy spirit is Jesus and God.
so let's clean it up. meaning you have resolved that the 'boss' is just the 'it' or the one as being 'dah boss' (no others, i like it) ok..... So adam was born of the dust, mother nature (god itself, the garden), so was jesus, einstein, newton, you and I. We are lives living in the same body of 'da boss' as adam, jesus, einstein and the most merciful YOU (i know you got it, but you may not know it just yet). So homage to 'the garden' dont make sense but responsibility to our very life provider, is THAT IMPORTANT. And all the children of tomorrow, will be our lives (procreations) of today, living into the morrow, in the body of god, in his existence, under his trinity (mass, energy, time), and in 'christ' (truth of what is real), then we are living is fact, enabling life to live, by choice. "WE" can become one, with god (nature) by knowing itself and 'our' capabilities (in christ; pursuit of truth). 'we' all can 'we' are all capable and when you bump into some prik with this kind of talk........ realize, it is just a gift from (the 'gods') (knowledge of mankind by standing on the shoulders of giants) what has been learned nature is our mother/father/provider/beginning-ending/everything...................... and to know that is to return to 'him' (itself)
There is a problem with believing they are one. God creates a set of rules, he sends himself to be born on earth, teach a series of morals that contradict his own rules, and sacrifices himself to convince himself to change the rules that he created. It does not even remotely make sense.
According to the New Testament the invisible sky God didn't give anyone any rules (the Law). Galatians 3:19-20 (CEV) = What is the use of the Law? It was given later to show that we sin. But it was only supposed to last until the coming of that descendant who was given the promise. In fact, angels gave the Law to Moses, and he gave it to the people. There is only one God, and the Law did not come directly from him.
The Old Testament has a funny joke about the Law. Ezekiel 20:25-26 (CEB) = I also issued regulations that were not good and case laws by which they could not live. I defiled them with their very gifts when they offered up all their oldest children. They were supposed to be so horrified that they would acknowledge that I am the Lord. Exodus 22:28-30 (CEV) = 28 Dont speak evil of me or of the ruler of your people. Dont fail to give me the offerings of grain and wine that belong to me. Dedicate to me your first-born sons and the first-born of your cattle and sheep. Let the animals stay with their mothers for seven days, then on the eighth day give them to me, your God.
That is a silly question. Because it is like saying what fruit do you like orange or orange juice? Jesus is the God spoken of in the Old Testament; He is the same one that led the Children of Israel out of Egypt.
that's a bunch of crap jesus had nothing to do with OLD testament. jesus was not the guy of revelation, daniel, ezek..... ie.... the messiah to open up a can of whoop-azz, was not jesus. you know it, i know it and the majority on the earth know it ie....... liars are still walking around and there will be nothing but dead liars left, when its hammer time! for example: you wont be here, when the job is done
So then why would he need to sacrifice himself to himself to convince himself to change the rules that he created himself?
There are no gods. Long live Jesus, maker of the breakthough from barbarism, moral genius and ur-socialist. Like Socrates with his daemon he dramatised his inner voices, and so what. Good man!
The answer is simple, "I'm a societal man, a husband, a father, have been an employee, a supervisor, etc...same person, but wear different hats for each job (position)...what's so hard about that analogy?!! Oh yeah, scoffers want the easy cheap shot to bolster their unbelief and pat themselves on thee back, to assure themselves that they is no final accountability for their actions in this life, and no One to judge their lives & where they will spend their eternity'...'denial' is sooo convenient, huh?! But a beer always sounds good for 'any' occasion...
course it's not really a 'sacrifice' if your a god and can not die... it would just be pretending to die, doesn't sound as spectacular though to say god pretended to die and said through this pretend death all will be free of my wrath .
and that was one of the biggest conflicts I had when I was a Christian, did not like to think about it, cause it just isn't logical
The concept of God the Father sending His Son to die as a surrogate for mankind and carrying the sin's of the world during the crucifixion, as an eternally spotless sacrificial Lamb, can only be understood by spiritual revelation and as knowing God's plan from the beginning---scripture says, "The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." God knew man would fail (sin, go against God's authority) and prepared a Plan "B" to rescue & restore him. And, per Jewish culture, the Jewish priests of the time knew that when Jesus called Himself "the Son of God,' that He was equating Himself to God, as the oldest son is the inheritor of all of the father's possessions. Other refs that could be used to speak of the divinity and equality of Jesus as God, with the most obvious scripture that sums it up as: When Thomas saw the risen Christ after denying the possibility of His resurrection, when seeing the pierced Christ he fell to his knees saying, "My Lord and my God." BTW, there is a following of folks calling themselves the "Jesus Only" believers, who focus strictly on His office I personally accept the 3 in 1 (even buy the oil), and that view is satisfying to my mind/soul..
Close your eyes, think of all of the universe as a whole as the ONE itself. Basically, that all of everything; all mass, all energy and all time as one total could be our creator. (there's that trinity) Now is mankind of 'gods' body? His (its) life, love and everything but as an "I", a self, capable of knowing that "we" are. (i am that I am.) we are it, knowing itself and learning over time. the "words" evolving over time, to understand. does that help with the god issue? we are itself, alive
all bs. the culture acceptance, the beliefs as posted and the poppy cop as rendered to the literature, is crap you are representing a belief but that dont equate to right now. no one to bow too.....? you can choose to do as you wish the stories you represented are from someone elses, that you like to hold as true but the conveyance as written in that post is primarily garbage.
NOTE: I appreciate your "Dislikes" Bish, as they reaffirm that my words are correct & truthful concerning the Gospel of Christ, and that you are but another angry person lumping all religion together and striking out, usually with uncivil postings. Things havnt changed since I left 3 mos ago, huh?! But go ahead & have your day, as I say what I must say, and when this section becomes unfruitful, I move on... but you can continue to prosper on this forum as the atheist Mods' novelty....ha ha
you aint conveying gospel my dislikes are so the community can see what 'false witness' is like You have a scripture that is not talking about you and your belief system, as the rule over all of no false witness supercedes belief or biblical interpretation. that is what is beautiful about truth, any and all can see for themselves most anyone who has experienced the lies and false witness of deceitfully proud people can also be mad at liars, in most every interraction of people i aint angry so much at you, but what you are doing with your posting. You are harming not only yourself but misleading others. not believing in your opinion is not what makes a person an atheist. you labeling the mods as atheist is how you show this forum, that idiots dont like 'them' just as the bible said. The mods try to hold truth over bs, and the bs'ers hate em. dood. thanx for revealing yourself
Feel better now? Angry ppl have to let out their rant, and rave to pressure relief their out-of-control emotional problems. Well, looks like this thread is pretty much shot with uncivil postings..time to move to another one until it too will be ruined by more uncivil behavior.
Perhaps simple to the simple minded but not a good analogy - cos according to the bible the three of them was at the same time in different forms , in different places. For exampla how many hats did your god wear before he seduced an innocent virgin . ? Read - Zeus's night with Semele , mother of good Lord Dionysus. Same script - plagiarised by bible writers . Nah , I just prefer rational explanations instead of unsubstantiable nonsense. God, the creator of the universe , hated the world so much that he sent his only son so that whoever does not believe in him will perish and be denied eternal life.-- (God's Ex-wife) I'll go for another beer. ...
