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Do Cathlics still excommunicate people?

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  1. Maximatic

    Maximatic Well-Known Member

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    What does it take to get excommunicated from the Catholic Church these days?
    I'm serious. I really don't know.
     
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    Anobsitar Banned

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    I am an excommunicated Catholic. The reason: I'm remarried.

    http://www.youtu.be/XDaEfVX0ZfE
     
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    Are you supposed to not get into Heaven because of that?
     
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    Become a freemason, its a quick way to automatic excommunication.
     
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    They really shouldn't... with all the trouble they have of getting people into their churches these days.
     
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    What means "good luck"? I don't have any problem with this situation. The decision to marry again was one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life.

    http://www.youtu.be/jwStDK2_qpw
     
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    A Catholic stays always to be a Catholic - completly independent wether someone's excommunicated or not.

    http://www.youtu.be/4DFp00tnSv4
     
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    Every time a Cahtolic commits a mortal sin, he/she is excommunicated. When popes and bishops excommunicate someone, they are simply declaring something that has already happened.

    http://jimmyakin.com/2004/05/excommunication-4.html
     
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    When a bishop excommunicates someone does he tell them that they are excommunicatus? If you're right, and he does, he needs to go confess that to a priest when he's done because you're not supposed to communicate with someone once they've been excommunicated.

    Are you Catholic?
     
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    Divorce and remarriage, IF the first marriage was recognized by the Catholic Church.

    Join the freemasons.

    Be an necessary participant in an abortion.

    But not all sins mean ex-communication.
     
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    Anobsitar mentioned that excommunication does not make one "ex-Catholic." This is true. It makes one unable to be a "communicant." That means one cannot approach the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist (Communion). All one has to do to to be permitted back to the Eucharist is amend his/her situation and avail him/herself of the Sacrament of Reconciliation (Confession) with sincere contrition.
     
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    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Excommunication is not the same as "shunning"--to "communicate" is to be one with the faithful through the Sacrament of the Eucharist. The Eucharist is the source and summit of the Faith, so not being permitted to receive Communion is a serious position to be in.
     
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    Alright, now we're getting somewhere.
     
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    When I look at the etymology, I see both "put out of communion", the sacrament, and "put out of community", the community, or common, from "communis". But when I try to go to "eucharistia" from the word excommunicate, I hit a dead end. I can't get there from here.

    But anyway, how does it work out in practice? Do you still go to church and everything else, and just not partake of the sacrament?
     
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    Yep. Social control. It's quite a racket the Catholics had going and apparently still have going, convincing people that they need something imaginary and then threatening to take it away from them if they misbehave. Such a thing must have served medieval governments very well indeed.
     
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    Well, you certainly are on a crusade, eh?
     
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    The Eucharist is very important to the Catholic, I know. What do you think the best fate of a person who goes his whole life without ever having taken that sacrament can be?
     
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    Generally, people who are in a state of mortal sin and refuse the sacrament of reconciliation aren't interested in mending their status. Then there are those who flagrantly oppose teachings and ignore the latae sententiae excommunication and do what they want in further offense against God. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latae_sententiae

    Then there is the small number who are excommunicated officially, but that is actually reserved as a pastoral attempt to urge a person back onto the right path and not a "punishment" per se. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05678a.htm
     
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    God judges, not me.
     
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    So partaking of the sacrament isn't a requirement to salvation.
    Then why do religions practice them?
     
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    To benefit from the graces conferred and to join in the prayers of the Universal Church. That's what Catholics believe, anyway.
     
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    That's why I didn't ask what his fate will be, but what you think it could be in a best case (for him) scenario. It's a hypothetical scenario, where you guess, not judge. What do you think the possibilities for him in eternity?
     
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