Preparing to bomb Syria

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Our time will only come, when more people shake off either the apathy or their own confusion. Our time will only come when different groups, who may even have differences between them, only when they can put those to one side, at least suspend all problems over all other differences, then we will remain the self defeating, bloated, confused ants that we presently are.

    If people were smart they would realise that the reason, at least one of them, the (oddly when you think about it), all these agents of the rich forced excessive multiculturalism onto Europeans and Americans, was not as an act of benevolence or charity on their part, it was to basically put people there that look and sound so different to the native people, that when their financial wing are scamming us, and their war machine is tearing up other lands, they can then get their media to sort of stir up some problems, between the immigrants and the natives.

    Depressingly, this is where the like of Golden Dawn fall down. Are they right to be v angry at the state of Greece? Yes they are. Is it good that they care and are passionate? Yes, we do not have enough raw passion. Do I believe they have righteous anger toward the Greek politicians who must clearly have facilitated the demise of Greece? Yes. Have they a righteous anger with the international counting houses, and do I feel they know only too well what I have said about the EU really being a large facilitator for the self same international bankers? Yes indeed. Do I feel they may even have a valid case, re too much immigration to their country, or could they have a valid case re the level of immigrant crime? Yes.

    However.

    It all sort of falls down, because, they fall into that trap of putting too much of their focus on the immigrants, up to and including some unsavoury actions, there is no doubt.

    I have had dialogue with people of ALL political persuasion, away from here I mean, and I mean all. This is the problem you have even with real white nationalists(not fake one's like the EDL). And not fake wannabe Nazi's, I am talking about ordinary looking people that are white nationalists politically, or such. I find it interesting to hear what all sides have to say, and the problem with them, and it is a big one, is that they will be bashing along just fine, with some v fair and legitimate points on all fronts, and then, just as it is all sounding not too bad, someone has to go and take it off on a stupidly racist (genuinely racist) tangent, and you are thinking 'Hang on, these are people may not like some of the people I don't like, but they are not any good either'. That is the impression they tend to leave with me, and I imagine GD are more akin to white nationalists, than German NS or Italian Fascists.
     
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    "Will Syria lead to a Iraq type genocide when NATO intervenes and how many are required to be killed to be labelled a genocide when the there is no government, terrorist bandits are the only law in Libya?"

    http://www.examiner.com/article/war-criminals-kill-gaddafi-bomb-80-000-civilians-psyops-working


    "Can the casualty figures used on Democracy Now by the “Syrian Observatory for Human Rights” based in London and receiving the entirety of their reports via “phone” & YouTube videos from Syria, is working in coordination with both US-funded NGOs and the British Foreign Minister. Considering that Hague similarly coddled Libyan opposition leaders in London while playing a key role in promoting the NATO attack on Libya and the subsequent installation of a BP oilman as “prime minister,” Abdelrahman’s consorting signifies a verbatim repeat of the now openly fraudulent and genocidal NATO campaign in Libya.”

    No, indeed not.

    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/syrian-ngos-working-directly-with.html

    [video=youtube;j02uvYMKbh4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j02uvYMKbh4[/video]
     
  3. Monster Zero

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    So who the hell is steering the Liberal media ship ?





    "Scotty! Full power ahead, wuss factor 10."
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  4. Jack Napier

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    First you must define what you mean by it?
     
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    So if you don't want more immigration, have more kids and/or accept a contraction in your national economy. What's the difficulty in comprehending that concept?
     
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    Why bomb Syria?

    They are killing each other quite nicely.
     
  7. Jack Napier

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    Huh?

    The answer to out of control immigration is to have more kids?

    How about just tackle the actual immigration?
     
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    You never realized that the high rate of immigration was connected to the low native birth rate? How naive, JN!
     
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    Rupert Murdoch, of course.
     
  10. Jack Napier

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    Yes, but you see, by your rationale, all that would happen there would be immigrants would go on pouring in, and ALL birth rates would go shooting up, and soon everywhere would be over full.

    Brilliant.

    Far better than just better measures on immigration.

    :roll:
     
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    No, that's not what I said, JN. You apparently want to solve the problem by cutting off immigration and ending up with an ageing population and a stagnant or even regressive economy (a contracting economy). If instead the native population actually starting having quite a few more babies, the incentive to encourage high immigration would vanish and politicians and business interests would be a lot more willing to massively reduce the rate of immigration. This shouldn't be a difficult concept to get, JN.
     
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    Rampant third world immigration was not implemented to assist with falling birth rates.
     
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    Of course it was. Try matching changes in native birth rates against the rise in third world immigration. And until Eastern Europe became available (with still not great birth rates) only the Third World really had the immigrants to spare, as the other Western nations had the same problem.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_ageing
    http://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/policy-primers/demographic-objectives-migration-policy-making
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom#UK_Population_change_over_time

    http://www.academia.edu/1125602/Mov...ctives_for_a_Common_European_Migration_Policy
     
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    When you believe geniuses of deception like this guy, you can believe whatever the Weapons of Mass Deception want you to believe:
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    With the advancement of technology we need fewer human beings to get everything done. So we end up with more humans who want jobs than can have jobs. We need to limit those jobs to Americans, because we are Americans. It's only going to get worse.
     
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    The quote below is a Malthusian statement that views the world as a static limited resource.
    And, it was Malthusians who recently destroyed Libya where everyone got 1000 $ US per month whether they worked or not.
    If we took care of our fellow humans instead of wasting trillions on war, we wouldn't be talking about starving or otherwise killing off much of the world wide human population so that we can sit around drinking beer while watching others die on our Televisions.
     
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    The same old Elitist villians

    Senior CFR official: Free Syrian Army needs al-Qaeda support

    "A top strategist at the prestigious U.S. Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is crediting al-Qaeda forces in Syria with the resurgence of the rebellion against President Bashar Al-Assad's regime."The Syrian rebels would be immeasurably weaker today without al-Qaeda in their ranks," writes Ed Husain, a Senior Fellow of Middle East Studies with the CFR, which is considered in political circles to be America's most influential foreign-policy think tank.

    Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/330734#ixzz2XHNHICap


    It just goes to show you how uncaring Elites are, who will slay a country of people so they can get some lousy oil and gas pipelines.

    And people like Obama, who started this Syria war, pretend to be HUMAN.

    Prove it, Mr. President. Stop the killing in Syria.

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    Sign the Petition to President Barack Obama

    President Barack Obama: Tell us the Truth about Syria. Stop this Violent Proxy War.

    http://www.change.org/petitions/pre...truth-about-syria-stop-this-violent-proxy-war
     
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    Powell never cared about the security of America. He was just being a shill for Bush, Cheney, and Exxon.

    And I used to believe the "Progressives" like Amy Goodman and Michael Moore cared about human rights, peace, and justice.

    But they are more interested in their mult-million dollar gigs as
    Democrat Party spokesmen like the twits at MSNBC, Maddow,
    Mathews and Olberman.
     
  19. Ivan88

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    Now that Britain, France, and the USA supply, support and encourage their Talmudic Allah Akhbar terrorists to attack Syria, The Mother and Father of Western Civilization, Europe and America; The USA, Britain and France have become Babylonian - they have joined the Babylon that murdered the Perfect Man, "nature's God".

    When Russia decide to support Syria it qualified to be the capital of the New Jerusalem - Zion of Christian Israel as described in Hebrews 12 where good men are made perfect in Christ"

    "mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
    To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,"
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    Any time bombs are used to target innocent civilians it is an act of terrorism.

    — President Barack Obama 15th February 2013 (re Boston bombings)


    Libya, Syria, Lies, Perfidies and Tony Blair
    ____________________________________________

    Flooding the jihadis with weapons -

    “Up to 3,000 surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) have gone missing since the conflict” with more than “one million tonnes of weapons belonging to Colonel Quaddaffi” looted after his terrible death at the hands of NATO’s “allies”.

    Potentially that is enough SAMs to down 3,000 airliners.

    The Daily Mail understands that, unsecured “ … there are now more weapons in Libya than in the entire arsenal of the British Army” according to MI6 estimates."

    http://www.blacklistednews.com/Libya,_Syria,_Lies,_Perfidies_and_Tony_Blair/26887/0/0/0/Y/M.html
    ____________________________________________

    Angela Merkel warns against arms in Syria: ‘Incalculable’ risks

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/27/angela-merkel-warns-against-arms-syria-incalculabl/

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    CFR villian Henry Kissinger - same old tyrant - still killing after all these years ...


    Henry Kissinger: Balkanized Syria Best Possible Outcome

    http://www.blacklistednews.com/_Hen...Best_Possible_Outcome_/26902/0/38/38/Y/M.html

    _________________________________________

    US spooks stockpile arms for Syrian rebels in Jordan for August onslaught – report

    http://www.blacklistednews.com/US_s...ugust_onslaught_–_report/26960/0/0/0/Y/M.html
     
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    How the Israelis are using the Allah-Akhbar crazies to accomplish their goals:
    [video=youtube;CISHTtNywyk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CISHTtNywyk[/video]
    In English, mostly.
     
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    Sometimes Liberal d-bag John Stewart
    cheers on the NeoCon Murder Style of Obamas
    illegal destruction of Libya. But come on, its a comedy/
    U.S. propaganda brainwashing show! Relax! :roll:

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    Muammar Gaddafi's death gets 'Daily Show' treatment | PopWatch | EW.com

    John Stewart is also on leave to direct an anti-Iran propagnda film for the U.S. government.

    What now? IRAN NEEDS LIBERATED too, John?

    Stuart Leibowitz? eh? I Mean Jon Stewart, to Direct Anti-Iran Film Propaganda About Green Revolution Provocateur | American Everyman

    The Daily Show has Council on Foreign Relations, and U.S. Government Connections

    "For proof of a globalist connection to the Daily Show, one need go no further than one of the show’s Emmy Award winning writers, Kevin Bleyer, who is a member of the globalist round table group known as the Council on Foreign Relations, whose stated mission can only be described as the erosion of U.S. sovereignty. His Wikipedia entry proudly boasted about his CFR membership until recently, but it can still be confirmed elsewhere, like on the CFR’s own website and Bleyer’s Facebook page in which two of his five “likes” are the CFR and Foreign Affairs, the CFR’s publication. In addition, Bleyer (who was one of the writers present on the night I was assaulted) is a Truman National Security Fellow, an organization that “recruits, trains, and positions progressives across America to lead on national security”

    Jon Stewarts Executive Producer Arrested for Assaulting 911 Activist | We Are Change

    Jon Stewert Praises the Murder of Moammar Gadhafi and the Illegal NATO Bombing of Libya

    Jon Stewert Praises the Murder of Moammar Gadhafi and the Illegal NATO Bombing of Libya | American Everyman

    George Bush is Not a War Criminal in Jon Stewart’s World?

    George Bush is Not a War Criminal in Jon Stewart?s World? | American Everyman
     
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    Maybe it's time for a National Anthem that starts off with
    We are Peacful nation.
    [video=youtube;Z78RZqEHxjI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z78RZqEHxjI[/video]
     
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