new growing pressure from public about obama birth certificate

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  1. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for this ridiculous video that made me laugh. Please keep them coming.

    How's the birther movement going? Alive and well?

    By the way, Obama is not a Muslim and has never said that he is a Muslim. If the US does get a Muslim President one day, I'd be totally fine with that.

    They're hilarious. They are edited so poorly in an effort to make Obama look like he's confessing to be Muslim that you can't stop laughing.

    I especially like the McCain reference which is a completely different scene. Comic gold.
     
  2. Perilica grad Ameriku

    Perilica grad Ameriku Banned

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    "Birthers" have been saying "any day now" for more than five years.

    Even planaria have a steeper learning curve.
     
  3. scott e.

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    that's why I say any day now, things are happening though.

    from the internet:

    He does have a bit of a monotone voice, and sometimes the questions on his quizzes/exams can be worded so that if you're not reading the whole question you will definitely get it wrong. However, he is a good professor, and if you don't understand something and you ask him, he knows enough about the subject to explain it multiple ways with multiple examples until you get it, and while he may not be in his office, he always promptly responds to emails. The class is easy, so long as you're paying attention and/or reading the material before you come into the next class.
     
  4. LogicallyYours

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    Sure it is....You guys just waiting for the ink to dry on your next attempt at generating a phony birth certificate?
     
  5. scott e.

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    why can't you just forget about that bomford fiasco ?
     
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    just stop making a complete fool of yourself.
     
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    Why? because it speaks to the lack of honesty and credibilty of the Birfers. People of such low moral fiber, with such race based hatred they were willing to fabricate evidence in an attempt to win. Proving it's not at all about leaning the truth, it's about winning.

    These are the people you have aligned yourself with.
     
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    sorry, I work alone...
     
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    Really?...then why do you keep linking to Birfer sites for more bogus information.
     
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    The "Bombard fiasco" wasn't even the worst fail of Birthers. They fell for a Canadian birth certificate that was signed by Dudley Do Right. Phil Berg even submitted this in Court

    [​IMG]
     
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    Again, there is no truth behind the "born in Kenya" claim so, the Birfers have to concoct evidence. Completely dishonest. That just leads to the question of why? While they won't admit it, I believe it's because they are, at the core, racists.
     
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    I was being flippant.
     
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    So then my question is, in light of the fact there is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea that Obama was born anywhere other than the US, and plenty of evidence that he was born in the US....Why are you still a Birfer?
     
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    to me it seems as if Obama's life story was written after 2007. I was amused that the life story page at fogbow was "under construction" for a long time, I thought, how apropos.

    numerous changes and conflicts. the touting of putting the birth certificate on the net, then, two years later, putting the birth certificate on the net. the white house press room. e.g. gibbs.

    ...... and of course the antibirthers themselves have kept me glued to this story. e.g. the fogbow crowd.

    the promise of more evidence. the history of Chicago politics. rev wright, bill and bernardine, rezko. etc.

    the mainstream media.

    it's a fair question, notwithstanding your spelling of birther of course.

    incidentally, was this ever "debunked" ??

    The microfilms that were found for the time period include “NARA Record Group A3573, Reel 184, INA records from July 28, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961″ and “NARA Record Group A3573, Reel 185, INA records from Aug. 8, 1961 through Aug. 12, 1961.”

    However, “Remarkably, all INS records for the week of Obama’s birth, Aug. 1 – Aug. 7, 1961, were missing from the end of Reel 184 and were not discovered anywhere on Reel 185, or any other microfilm reel in the record group,” the report said.

    “The National Archives confirmed in a letter written on National Archives stationary that the INS records for foreign flights arriving in Hawaii during the week of Obama’s birth were missing, not only on the microfilm reels examined, but also in the primary database itself,” the report said.


    http://www.birtherreport.com/2012/03/national-archives-confirm-ins-records.html

    you know the lists of coincidences.
     
  15. Perilica grad Ameriku

    Perilica grad Ameriku Banned

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    Why would it need to be "debunked" when it was irrelevant? Travel to the US from Kenya entered via New York in 1961, not Hawaii. And the New York INS records have no gaps.
     
  16. scott e.

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    thanks Frankie... :wink:
    i'm sure you covered this a long time ago. so, was any microfilm missing for those dates ?

    is this statement a fabrication ??

    “The National Archives confirmed in a letter written on National Archives stationary that the INS records for foreign flights arriving in Hawaii during the week of Obama’s birth were missing, not only on the microfilm reels examined, but also in the primary database itself,” the report said.
     
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    You're wrong, again. But thanks for introducing me to Frank. We have traded messages on Facebook.

    No microfilm is missing at all, either for Hawaii or New York. The missing Hawaiian records resulted from a card-reader jam in 1961 when the original microfilms were being made. Corsi admitted that the effects of the jam (multiple cards stacked up concealing those underneath) are evident on the films he examined. The films themselves (as originally made) are complete.

    There are no similar missing records from the New York films, and those are the only ones that actually matter. Corsi examined them all and did not find Obama or his parents in them.

    Well... partially. There is no "primary database" at all. There are only the original films and copies made from them for distribution to the archive branches. If the INS ever got around to digitizing those films, then there would be a database that would be also be missing those records since they cannot invent what the microfilms do not contain. But the INS has no apparent plans to do any digitizing of records that old.
     
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    thanks, so this wasn't anything to do with ins. there was no ins letter ?

    “The National Archives confirmed in a letter written on National Archives stationary that the INS records for foreign flights arriving in Hawaii during the week of Obama’s birth were missing, not only on the microfilm reels examined, but also in the primary database itself,” the report said.

    have you seen the "missing" week. can anyone see them ?? what does your expression "similar missing records" mean ?

    also: I know the library in Honolulu had the advertiser announcements on fiche, has anyone found an original copy of the actual newspaper ??

    i'm glad you are enjoying the facebook... :wink:
     
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    There was an INS letter. It did not say what Corsi has claimed that it said,

    In the order asked: I have not seen this particular missing week. I have seen others, Yes, anyone can see them as the records in the National Archives are open to anyone and everyone without appointment. I cannot come up with an alternative meaning for "similar missing records" other than the obvious one. Specifically, there is no gap in the New York records (the only ones that count) around the time of President Obama's birth.

    Several libraries have the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star Bulletin on microfilm or paper. Here is a fairly comprehensive list:

    http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82014685/holdings/

    I am not aware that anybody has ever actually tried to find a paper copy of the 1961 edition with the President;s birth announcement. Offering a reward does not count as trying.
     
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    from the internet:

    The filing identifies a female (Jane Doe) as having created the forgery of both birth certificates and others as having promulgated propaganda. It claims that a perpetrator provided money to carry out a plan “to place a foreign alien/agent in as President of the United States,” and identifies media executives as having arranged for a reporter to claim that she had seen and touched the raised seal on the long-form birth certificate the day it was posted. Vogt claims that there was no raised seal on the document.
     
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    Arduini? Outed by you? Hardly. He was posting on Phil Berg's Obamacrimes under his own name as far back as September 2008. As for "Jimbot," he has still never been outed at all. The rather hilarious birther belief that he is Jim Johnson is simply wrong. Davidson, Bryan and Collins also "outed" themselves and so were never "outed" at all. And if you want to hold up RC and NBC as somehow representative of anonymous Obots, certainly you know that it is no great difficulty to assemble an extremely long list of anonymous birthers. So as to what you imagine you would be demonstrating, I have no idea.



    buy bushwood....?????? you ??? (caddyshack) :roflol::clapping:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=290391


    thank God for archives... this is good reading folks... American history in motion...........................
     
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    Someone is reduced to posting screenshots of his posts onto a board he was banned from after months of wasting everyone's time thereby proving that "Obots are all about censorship" and leaving aside that Birther report had to go on a banning spree and ban every non birther voice a month ago, and remove its thumbs up/down functionality when all the birther comments were getting massively downvoted on their own board. Of course it was pretty funny that all they could do to the horrid obots that started commenting on their board on their board was scream and insult them, rather than win an argument

    I wouldn't mind so much if Scotts screenshots were of good comments or comments that made sense.
     
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    Yeah. America voted for Barack Obama as President by a landslide proportion. Twice. :salute:

    And it doesn't change that another birther case is dust. And I don't need a smiley.
     
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    Theory?...really?...in Science a theory is an explanation based on facts. How is your claim a "theory"? Oh, that's right....it's not.

    Isn't it time you jumped off the Birfer Train?
     

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