Africa is the target of fraudsters and opportunists - look up malaria drugs and Africa. And this is where capitalism DOES look after it's own - they do not want to be undercut by someone selling an inferior product. However even in Africa they have a right to sue pharmacy companies - so where is it in the companies interest to commit genocide??
You know It is always worthwhile chasing down the original story http://www.telegraphindia.com/1120116/jsp/frontpage/story_15011108.jsp#.VH6vHpVxlwE So is the risk of continuing with OPV worth it? Even with this adverse effect the number of children affected is a few hundred versus tens of thousands, They have fought the disease down to that level and now to get it to zero they may have to increase funding for a more expensive option
Ask the Turks and the Germans, the Soviets. Why they caused genocide. I'm not a raving lunatic and would not know the answer to your question. If I had to guess though, I would say deranged race beliefs, territory, population control. I'm not so sure pharmaceutical companies are doing the tampering. So far it's only been UNICEF's vaccines under question (to my understanding I am not up to date on ALL vaccines and pharmacies) I'm not inclined to change my mind about vaccines until there is more oversight, no matter what you tell me or show me. That is my right and I will exercise it. You have a vested interest in the medical industry and can not be fully trusted in my eyes. The fact that you point to an ongoing experiment logs for evidence proves nothing. From what I can tell the files are small and don't include 90% of vaccinated people. I know my information was never uploaded, along the other 3 people in my house hold, and the rest of my family and friends. So I don't hold much hope the site you provided will be of any help to the majority. I know how the medical industry operates. Doctors are well paid drug pushers for the pharmaceutical companies. That is a well known fact in America. That alone makes them not trustworthy. The funny thing is people call me crazy for not trusting them. Go figure.....
Of course there is. The flu vaccine has been known to give people the flu. (Common knowledge) The vaccines are a dead strand of the virus they are trying to protect you from. It makes perfect sense that they have the potential to give you the virus, and has been proven the case. But you are crazy for believing that, even though it's true. Go figure.....
Common myth. Nobody has ever been known to have contracted flu from a flu vaccine. Some people catch flu despite receiving the vaccine (before the vaccine takes effect or from a different strain), some people get flu-like illnesses and misdiagnose themselves and a few people get side effects from the vaccine which they misdiagnose as flu symptoms. Where is that proof? Remember correlation doesn't imply causation.
You claimed that polio was not a problem before the vaccine was introduced. That was completely and totally false. Yes, the live-virus version of the polio vaccine can, in very rare cases, cause polio. (the polio-contraction rate is 1 per every 2.4 million people vaccinated). But In areas of the world where polio is still common, your odds of getting polio without the vaccine are far higher. In Pakistan, for instance, despite vaccination efforts, the polio rate is about 1 per 900,000 people. So you're at least 2.5 times as like to get polio without the vaccine than with it. From a statistical perspective, it's a no-brainer to get the vaccine. The killed-virus version of the vaccine poses no polio risk at all. Which is why it's the vaccine used in countries like the United States, where vaccination has effectively wiped out polio. We still need to vaccinate to keep polio from returning, but the risk-reward of the live-virus vaccine isn't as good in countries with a very low risk of polio. Why isn't the killed-virus version used everywhere, and the live-virus version phased out? Because the live-virus version conveys better immunity and also disrupts the spread of polio. In countries with high rates of polio, it's still the better choice.
It is well known they make billions! Here are 3 videos you should watch to see why drug companies have been pushing vaccinations and other drugs on the public for so long. The amount of money they make on vaccinations is less than on other drugs, but the profits are still astronomical as compared to any other business in America today. http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=781C36C5752AB4894EED16C5229A6E6D http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=AD7E4A4231545A82E5119F5CB7BAA8D9 http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=CDCE1C10F3D2CB099A9A6A92408038BB In regard to the flu vaccines, the drug company Glaxo Smith Kline, sold about 1.3 billion dollars worth in one quarter of 2009. The profits were huge, but no specific number was given in the report. The vaccine industry is growing rapidly and is at approximate 20 billion dollars per year now. Drug companies are always looking for ways of expanding their market shares. Here's a series of 18 videos that will give you an insight into the ridiculous mental health market that has now grown to 80 billion dollars a year in drug sales. If you think all of this is about your health, think again. It is BIG business using people as guinea pigs, a commodity, and expansion of markets at the cost of human beings, nothing more. Listen to what the number one vaccine researcher in the world says about vaccine technology: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110503003200AAOhoAM ----------------- There you have it, dear Bowerbird! Don't try to pull the wool over our eyes by defending the drug companies. I like to encourage everybody to check out alternative heath methods and natural supplements.
Well, I'm not a doctor, not even a nurse, but I can think for myself and out of a gut instinct I don`t trust any foreign substance `they` want to put into my body, live or dead!
Well let's look at that for one minute. The CDC says you can't get the flu from the shot, but then they list side affects. This is some of those "side effects" http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/flushot.htm What are the side effects that could occur? Soreness, redness, or swelling where the shot was given Fever (low grade) Aches Fever and aches... hmm... sounds just like the flu to me. But the CDC says it's not the flu...ok you can believe them. I will not. I will believe what my eyes can see. My mother got the flu shot 7 years ago and woke up the next day with the flu. It was not a low level fever. She has not had the shot since then and has not had the flu since then.
It's the symptoms for lots of other things too. Fever and pain isn't caused directly by the infection but your body fighting it off. The fact remains that there is zero evidence of anyone contracting flu from a flu vaccine. There is zero evidence that the contents of flu vaccines could cause flu. Unless you're able to present any such evidence, you have nothing other than your opinion and your confirmation bias. The flu vaccination doesn't take effect for several days, it doesn't protect from all flu strains and it (like anything) isn't 100% guaranteed. Someone contracting flu immediately after receiving the flu vaccination doesn't prove the vaccination caused it. Someone not contracting flu despite not having received the vaccination doesn't prove anything either.
Yes then the fact that people get the shot and don't get sick does not prove the vaccine works, but I am sure I can find a doctor that is saying see you didn't get sick it's working. Show me proof the vaccines work. I don't want stats I will need to be present to see it first hand. I want to look through the microscope. Transparency.
Sorry off topic. The internet p-me off. 12 years ago I could find almost anything I wanted in the first few pages. Now stories are buried. I can't find them unless I can quote exact words from the story. I live in a state that is at the head of medical research. My local news usually reports their findings when the public could be at risk. I know they reported about the flu vaccine shortly after it was released, but now I can't find the story. The new internet sucks.( regulations)
So based on your "gut instinct", you spread lies about the polio vaccine and ignore the math of vaccination. Good on you.
There are probably hundreds of thousands of medical doctors in the world so I'm sure you could find one that would say pretty much anything, however stupid. It doesn't actually prove anything. scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=flu+vaccine+efficiency+research&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=tGuAVInbNMyU7Qa87YDwBA&ved=0CB4QgQMwAA What good would that do? You've already said you have no expertise in this area so you'd have no idea what you were looking at under a microscope (I'm not even sure what you'd be looking at in this context anyway). You're perfectly entitled to perform your own research if you like though.
I wonder who runs google and wikipedia? Check this out: http://www.economist.com/blogs/econ.../economist-explains-who-really-runs-wikipedia
I have NEVER had a flu shot and have never had the flu either! This winter I had a cold, but that is the first in over a decade. I don't have a public job, so that helps. - - - Updated - - - You are vicious!
Based on how this thread has turned out, I think it should probably be moved out of the Health Care section and into the conspiracy section.
A. I do not "do" YouTube because it is not science it is an opinion B. It is from "natural news" and I have said before they should be sued for misleading advertising because it is neither natural or news C. Natural news is a vested interest. They sell "natural" products so they are very interested in engendering a belief that pharmaceuticals are "bad" Oh and flu vaccines do have profit but the older ones far less so
So, you do not trust food? Good luck with that one Vaccines merely train our own defence systems to recognise the diseases we are vaccinating againt
No it is not influenza it is a reaction. Full blown influenza ends with you in ICU on a ventilator IF you are lucky you will get better from that. If you are unlucky you end up on ECMO with more tubes hanging out of you than the electrical grid and THAT is if you do not end with multisystem failure
Didn't they have the influenza in Europe right after WWl? Tons of people died. I don't think they had the flu vaccine developed yet. Anyway, to finish this thread off before Lil Mike lays an egg, here is an article I just found: Everybody happy now??
Thanks for your insights! Really helpful. If it wasn't for this post I would be completely lost. Thanks again you saved me.