Crazy things some people actually believe.

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  1. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Can't be solved. There is no rate given, only ratios.
     
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    It is solvable.
     
  3. perdidochas

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    Not based on reality. Now, it might be able to be solved mathematically, but not realistically.
     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    Well then it should be easy for you now shouldn't it?

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  5. 10A

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    Yes it is thank you. As I suspected, not so easy for you.
     
  6. 10A

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    What's the difference? Math isn't real?
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    Unless I want to go into 4 decimal points back Bill needs to paint at 61.76 Minites +18.5 seconds.

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  8. AboveAlpha

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    And yes my algebra question is easy to solve.

    You porposely added 4 ratio's which I highly doubt you can even post the proof to.

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  9. 10A

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    ROFL. Not even close. Your answer doesn't even pass the smell test. Bill can paint a house, according to you, in 1 hour (approximately). Just considering Pete, forgetting the other 2 for now, he's twice as fast as Bill, which means (using your number approximately) he can paint a house in 30 minutes. Now if it was just Bill and Pete they'd paint the house in about 20 minutes, using your number. Now we just need to add 2 more people to make the job even faster. Your answer isn't anywhere near correct.

    What was it you said to another poster:

     
  10. AboveAlpha

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    John paints the house for 5.73 minutes.
    Tom paints for 11.46 minutes
    Peter paints for 34.38 minutes
    Bill paints for 61.76 minutes leaving 18.5 seconds.

    In your word problem you did not state they all painted continuously.

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  11. 10A

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    "If they all paint together..." Thanks for demonstrating the first requirement for a word problem is reading comprehension.
     
  12. AboveAlpha

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    See....now this changes things.

    It is actually easier to figure it out this way....

    Hold on.

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    And you should have stated if they all painted together for the total period of 2 hours as in my answer they do for a time all paint together put some stop while others continue.

    You have to state exactly what you are asking for.

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    No, it doesn't change things, I stated "together" in the original question. Since it's easier I'm sure you'll have the answer in no time.
     
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    Yeah I've been holding on (not). Apparently not so easy. Come on it's just 5th grade algebra. A differential equation is obviously out of the question.

    Next time you want to ridicule posters about math, remember me.
     
  16. AboveAlpha

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    OK....I am back.

    I was called away and now I can look at this.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Then there's always the issue of nothing being something.
     
  18. AboveAlpha

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    Everytime I think of you I get a good laugh!!

    Since only ratio's are presented between the rates of painting then we have to look at the ratio's between each of the 4 men.

    Now the solve using TIME can also be SOLVE USING ratio's.

    In the very easy Algebra question I asked GIRAFFE......the CALCULATION AND FORMULA....so solve this very easy Algebra Equation is.....(a x b) / (a + b)......I don't recall what numbers I gave him but it works for anything....

    EXAMPLE.....Man (a).....can paint a house in 4 hours....Man (b).....can paint the same house in 2 Hours.

    Thus (a x b)....or.....4 x 2 =8

    Thus DIVIDED BY......(a + b).....or....4 + 2 = 6

    Thus 8 / 6 = 1.3333333 etc......or 1 1/3rd Hours it would take both Man (a) and Man (b).....to paint the house together STARTING AT THE SAME TIME.

    Now when I was asked 10A's question he did not well define the parameters thus is all 4 Men....started together painting at their normal rates this is how long each man would spend painting to completely paint the house in a total of 2 HOURS

    John paints the house for 5.73 minutes.
    Tom paints for 11.46 minutes
    Peter paints for 34.38 minutes
    Bill paints for 61.76 minutes leaving 18.5 seconds.

    I can reverse this or place it in any particular order and of course the numbers would and being change any my being able to come upwith this answer IS 1000 TIMES MORE DIFFICULT TO SOLVE THAN ANYTHING 10A has asked....I was just SHOWING OFF!!!

    In 10A's question he wants to know how FAST Bill would have to paint in order for the home to be completely painted in 2 hours by all 4 men.

    Well the answer must be based upon using the ratios as RATIO OF TIME PASSAGE OF ANY MEMBER IS NOT IN THE QUESTION.

    Thus BILL will paint at a velocity of 1/12th that of John.....1/6th that of Tom.....and 1/2 that of Pete.

    When the ratio's are placed into the exact same Formula you get....

    1/12 x 1/6 x 1/2 x 1/1....or 1/12 x 2/12 x 6/12 x 12/12 = 144/12....=12

    Then we must add.

    1/12 + 2/12 + 6/12 + 12/12 = 21/12....= 1.75

    So we get....

    12 / 1.75 = 6.8571428571428571428571429

    Now for Math Geeks out there like myself you woud read this and get turned on by the fact a repetitive scale of....

    We get the whole number 6....and then get a 4 repetitive numerical scale of 857142....until after 4 it ends with a 9.

    So...what we have done here is a mean ratio.....as exact velocities of the painters were not provided....or even ONE would have been enough.

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    almost every hunter or shooter believes that, just because they managed to do something 1-2x, that they can do it whenever needed. What a crock. I"ve hit almost a dozen birds in flight with a 22 rifle, and I probably haven't really tried it 50x. but i only shot at birds flying almost straightaway from me, at a low angle, and I guarantee you that my success ratio would not be better than 10 hits in 1000 tries if I tried it at every bird inside 50 yds, at every angle! If a thing has 2 possible outcomes (ie, hit or miss) and you cant prove that you can do it 11 or more times out of ANY 20 tries, then your hit was just luck (ie, a coin toss 50%)
     
  20. AboveAlpha

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    This formula can be used in various forms.

    Say you have man A....who can paint a house in 60 minutes.

    You have Man B...who can paint the same house in 30 minutes.

    And you have man C...who can paint the same house in 15 minutes.

    60 x 30 x 15 =27,000

    60 + 30 + 15 = 105

    27,000 /105 =Approx.257 Minutes.....thus 4.2857...etc....Homes could be painted in 1 hour.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I am a crack shot and the first thing that my Dad and Mom and Grandparents who were all Crack Shot's taught me was TO KNOW IN YOUR MIND THE DISTANCE A ROUND OR VARIOUS SHOTGUN #'s such as #4 or #6 Shot compaped to 00 Buck Shot...as to how fast they will travel as you practice VISUALLY AND MENTALLY using targets such as an old piece of White Painted Sheet Metal.

    Same thing for different Shotgun Guages and different Handguns.

    People miss their targets because if say using a shotgun with #6 Shot they will either lead the bird too much or not enough.

    A person has to practice with different firearms and practice at different distances and different angles and different ammo loads.

    As example my S&W .357 Magnum when using .357 Magnum Rounds rather than a .38 Round which fit in S&W >357 Magnums.....well the .357 Magnum Round needs almost ZERO LEAD when aiming and firing at a moving target left to right or right to left at any velocity under 100 mph at a distance between 75 and 100 feet.

    Using the .38 Round...at least 2 feet of lead.

    You on the same page as I am on this?

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Oh....and 10A.....why are you bothering to interject yourself into a debate between myself and another?

    Considering how many times I have completely blown you out of the water is this some kind of S&M thing or what?

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    I think one of the craziest things that even educated people believe in, is this false concept that consciousness is a product of matter, when quantum mechanics has shown that Consciousness is fundamental, and isn't created by matter. As the physicist Tom Campbell and the biologist Bruce Lipton have talked about for years, the universe is manifested from Consciousness, with Campbell saying that reality is waves of information, coming forth from consciousness, which then created something like a virtual reality, which we call the physical universe. So much evidence points to this, and this was even believed by many of the founders of quantum mechanics, but it presented such problem that Feynman said quantum mechanics could not be understood, so just shut up and work the equations. It has been called the weird science for this reason, yet Campbell says it is understandable, but requires seeing Consciousness as the fundamental, and Consciousness then creating a virtual reality. And of course the softer sciences like biology are in revulsion over such an idea, for so much of their theory of evolution depends upon the nonexistence of this very intelligent Consciousness. As Campbell says, evolution is a fact, and all things evolve, including the universe, but it has Consciousness behind it, not randomness and lucky chances.

    Of course some very ancient religions already knew of this virtual reality and the place of consciousness, but they had to talk about it in poetic language as science did not exist. But early man already knew what it took quantum mechanics to verify. Yet the conditioning of people, is Newtonian, not quantum. And society, even many scientists still have a view that comes from the guy, and its materialism, or a Newtonian view of reality, and we have not caught up with what the science now is telling us.

    Why are people so resistant to the idea that consciousness is the fundamental? Is it because they are atheists and see this as allowing some people to claim this consciousness is god? Campbell doesn't call it god, as he says it is outside science, and reality being a subset of it, the subset cannot know the larger set. The subset can only have knowledge of what is in the subset, not what is outside of the subset.
     
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    The GAIA PRINCIPLE is somewhat like this.

    It considers that the Earth, the Galaxies and the Universe and Perhaps Multiverse hold within all Quantum Particle/Wave Forms Data which can be considered asects of Consciousness.

    Fact is....we really don't know for certain but we do know that the Quanta holds data.

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    I'm still waiting for a correct answer from you. Thanks for playing and failing though.

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    Well when you answer the question correctly we can talk about who blew what.
     

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