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Visualizing gun deaths – Comparing the U.S. to rest of the world

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by rangecontraction, Apr 9, 2015.

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  1. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry but I dont feed strawman posters. I have far more respect for the conspiracy theorist posters.
     
    AlphaOmega, Apr 15, 2015
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  2. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

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    Why is there "illegal" gun "acquisition and possession" with gun lover's interpretation of our Second Amendment?

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    We have a Second Amendment.

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    What was the question?
     
    danielpalos, Apr 15, 2015
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    He must have a really long ignore list. :p
     
    ChrisL, Apr 15, 2015
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    People may not know this but their is almost just about same percentage of blacks with conceal carry as their are whites.....and they are included in this 0.004% of all CCW holders that had committed in violent deaths.

    Which means race doesn't play a part in law abiding gun owners shooting deaths.

    Again that 0.004% per 100 thousand is lowest anywhere in the world.

    Also the fastest growing CCW permit holders today are women.
     
    Conan, Apr 15, 2015
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  5. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Spot on!! Indeed!!
     
    Johnny-C, Apr 15, 2015
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  6. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

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    Some on the left believe concealed carry should be a weapons qualification and privilege.
     
    danielpalos, Apr 15, 2015
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  7. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I guess you cannot figure out that if you own lots of guns legally, you ALREADY ARE WEALTHY. a good safe costs 1500-3000 dollars

    that is THREE -5 pistols worth.
     
    Turtledude, Apr 15, 2015
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  8. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that is moronic

    you are confusing the quantity of weapons versus their destructive power. that is a silly confusion

    How is someone more dangerous if they collect hundreds of firearms?

    Let me guess, someone can carry 50 guns and shoot them all at once?

    you don't appear to have much knowledge about the use of firearms

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    those who wish to ban guns should be seen as traitors to the US constitution?
     
    Turtledude, Apr 15, 2015
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  9. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Some on the right believe that sufficient vetting amounts to allowing anyone who wishes/purchases, ownership and concealed carry of a firearm.

    That's ludicrous and relatively insane, in my view.
     
    Johnny-C, Apr 15, 2015
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    I believe gun lovers brought before the Judicature for disturbing the domestic Tranquility and security of our free State could help provide support for fire crews this fire season. Such practice could be invaluable for the Militia of the United States and our several and sovereign State.
     
    danielpalos, Apr 15, 2015
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    the way you are going, you won't' have anyone to talk to. Maybe some of the more experienced posters will edify me but on the board this board appears to be similar to-threatening to put someone on ignore is an infraction.


    and I love it when gun banners refuse to respond. it means we can tee off on their nonsense and our counter-claims remain unchallenged and thus assumed to be true
     
    Turtledude, Apr 15, 2015
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  12. danielpalos

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    That only applies on private property.
     
    danielpalos, Apr 15, 2015
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    maybe if we promise to miss him, he really will go away?
     
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    who says that they NEED "vetting", hmm? 5 of the US states require no permit or licensing at all, to publicly carry a concealed pistol. None of those 5 states are anything like the leaders in violent crime. Vermont has always had such "Constitutional Carry". Alaska got it 6 or so years ago, then AZ 4 or so years ago, then Wy, and I forget the most recent state. We will soon have it thus in several more states, and I think it's crazy to live in any state that does not allow this basic right to self defense.
     
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    Nevertheless, tightening up vetting and qualifications is not a bad thing, in my view.
     
    Johnny-C, Apr 15, 2015
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    what was the question?
     
    danielpalos, Apr 15, 2015
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    constitutes being "wealthy", eh? :) Many saved their pennies for years in order to have 3k worth of guns and a vault. In fact, I've had 20k worth of guns (in today's money) several times and have never owned a vault. But the guns were either worn on my person, locked in my car trunk, hidden and locked in my storage unit, or taken apart with the parts scattered/hidden around the house.
     
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    Some on the left believe concealed carry should be a weapons qualification and privilege.
     
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    Do you have a safe/vault now? I feel much better having mine in one(not for safety but for theft protection).

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    I'm sure King George would have agreed with them.
     
    maat, Apr 15, 2015
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  20. Johnny-C

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    Tighten things up. It's time for that now. It won't hurt at all to do that.
     
    Johnny-C, Apr 15, 2015
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    A weapons qualification is a form of wellness of regulation.
     
    danielpalos, Apr 15, 2015
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    does anyone have a clue what that means-in terms of 21st century America?
     
    Turtledude, Apr 15, 2015
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    "tighten things up' HOW, dude? just have a few million more cops, tasked to do nothing but mess with gunowers? cause that's what it would TAKE. you have no idea what it means to have 70 million gunowers, most of them with significan't amounts of money and toys, and most of them with a VERY 'maverick" attitude about anyone messing with them (especially about their guns). That attitude is WHY most of them HAVE a gun, in the first place. me very, very much included in that group, btw. I'll give you a trillion $ worth of trouble over any sort of massive gun law. and there's thousands of guys just like me. It can't be done. We are not a bunch of poverty stricken peasants here.
     
    gorte, Apr 15, 2015
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    A weapons qualification is a form of wellness of regulation.
     
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    Tighten up ALL of it.
     
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