Anti LGBT Mindset: Why are YOU against gay rights? READ MOD WARNING IN OP BEFORE POST

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  1. ProgressivePatriot

    ProgressivePatriot Well-Known Member

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    Brushing aside the reality of the children of gays and lesbians, regardless of how they came into the world, is just disgusting and appalling. It makes me sick.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You said marriage exists for the improvement of children's well being. Well it doesn't because as you pointed out a grandmother and a mother raising a child together don't have that benefit. Neither do single parents.

    Exactly it's about promoting heterosexual marriages. Nothing to do with children.

    So you admit it is created to disparage single mothers and homosexuals?
     
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    In 49 states people with large noses can be evicted or fired. Nothing special about gays that warrants such special treatment for gays
     
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    I can't believe hee is tweeting to get me to swallow his lies. How stupid does he think everybody is?

    So heterosexual marriage is for the benefit of children, the train why it isn't extended to homosexuals it's to encourage heterosexuality? Earlier in the thread he stated it was not to disparage homosexuals?

    Look at post #752 in his quote, he specifically states that our is indeed to disparage homosexuals particularly betting parents.

    I just wonder who the hell he is trying to convince.
     
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    Nooo its about promoting mothers and father providing and caring for their own children together because they are the only two people in the world obligated by law to do so by the birth of the child. Without them the child has only the hope that someone might voluntarily step forward to assume those obligations. And with the abundance of children with single mothers on their own with absent or unknown fathers, we can see that doesnt always happen.
     
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    The childrens father is dead. The mother marrying a lesbian lover wont bring him back. Soooo not sure of your point. They dont have the benefit because it is an impossibility.
     
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    Thus directly disparaging homosexuals specifically from being parents.

    I caught you in your lie. Just admit it. If you want to convince yourself that this circular logic makes any (*)(*)(*)(*)ing sense, be my guest. But what you say directly contradicts what you said earlier.

    I'm not stupid enough to fall for it.
     
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    Her marrying another man won't either. So once again around the tiny little circle that is your logic.
    They could if we erase nonsense Victorian era laws.

    Laws that serve no purpose ought to be removed. A law banning two people of the same sex from getting married serves zero purpose.
     
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    Because the benefit to children is their mother and father in the home working together to provide and care for their children. A child with a homosexual couples requires separating that child from one or both of their biological parents.
     
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    So does being a single mother or single father. Here's the thing, life isn't perfect. But I would rather have two loving homosexuals raising children than having them in a government system.

    You really don't care about the children because I don't see you nor any other conservatives railing on single parents like you do homosexuals. Your arguments are a sham, and luckily the SCOTUS sees right through it. That is why your side has LOST.
     
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    Many cases that is the best thing that could ever happen for a child.
     
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    There the benefit would be for the children produced from their marriage. Not the children she already has. Their father is dead, he cant be brought back.
     
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    Actually, studies show that children born to single mothers have on average higher rates of poverty, juvenile delinquincy, teen pregnancy, HS dropouts and criminal conviction as an adult.
     
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    I don't know who he thinks he is convincing.

    His arguments are bunk. Every single time he posts it they are destroyed.
     
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    No more so than it does for ANY two consenting adults prohibited from marrying. Nothing unique about those who happen to be gay. And its the gays choice of sexual partners that discourages them from being parents. No matter how many times your boyfriend bones you in the butt, it wont cause you to become a parent. .
     
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    First some studies show children of gay couples do better than those of straight couples.
    Second a gay couple isn't a single mother.

    So that's another swing and a miss.
     
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    I would rather have two loving, consenting adults of any sexual persuasion raising the children, instead of this preference for homosexuals you insist upon.
     
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    It's not a preference to homosexuals. However, there are folks on your side of the debate that want to make it ILLEGAL for homosexuals to adopt children outright. That is simply ridiculous. I would rather have a loving heterosexual or homosexual couple as well as a loving single mother or single father. Assuming they can show they can care for the children, I would rather them raising the child than the state.
     
  19. Polydectes

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    All the more reason to dump the law.

    Gay people can adopt, gay people can have surrogates. So, no out doesn't in the least.

    Another swing and a miss.

    Yet I am, must be magic.
     
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    What BS. AND it isnt the fact that biological parents are "straight" that creates the advantage. It is the fact that they are biological parents, obligated by law to provide and care for their children. Sexual orientation is irrelevant.
     
  21. Polydectes

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    Nope there are studies that show gay parents are better.
     
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    Nope, and it wasnt the boning in the butt either.
     
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    Ask your mommy where babies come from.
     
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    Then feel free to fight for inclusion of incestuous marriages in US law, the issue is irrelevant to the issue of same sex marriage; are you actually justifying discrimination against one group because another group is also discriminated against?

    Should black civil rights been ignored because they were not protesting hispanic rights? Thats the argument you have sunk to.
     
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    Please stop pretending the arguments haven't been made refuting yours regarding procreation and "any 2 consenting adults". Nobody is fooled Dixon.
     
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