Russia’s newest Su-30 multirole jets and Su-24 bombers practiced attack runs on NATO

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    How about the last time? Would that be ok? Cuba, Hawaii...
     
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    Cuba was invaded when Spain was at war with the USA. Cuba was a Spanish colony. If you're talking about the Bay of Pig, no american troop took part in it.
    And for (*)(*)(*)(*) sake, Hawai was in the 19th century... Do you want us to post what your own (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) country did in the 19th century. Again, here we see the full extent of the Brits hypocrisy...

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    Cuba was invaded when Spain was at war with the USA. Cuba was a Spanish colony. If you're talking about the Bay of Pig, no american troop took part in it.
    And for (*)(*)(*)(*) sake, Hawai was in the 19th century... Do you want us to post what your own (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) country did in the 19th century. Again, here we see the full extent of the Brits hypocrisy...
     
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    Back on topic...

    The Russians are making these bomber recon runs purely for PR and "chest-thumping". Any time the Russians want to attack the NATO countries of Europe, they'll do so with tactical nuclear weapons (or possibly thermobaric weapons) launched from their exclave of Kaliningrad atop missiles.

    With these, the Russians can put a "payload" on top of either Warsaw or Berlin in less than five minutes. They can put one on Big Ben in London in just over ten minutes. They won't put one on Paris because the French have more sense than to antagonize the Russians enough to take that kind of action against. them.

    Link:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-placing-state-of-the-art-missiles-in-kaliningrad-2015-3
    http://uatoday.tv/politics/russia-s...uot-missile-system-to-kaliningrad-415852.html

    At some point we in "the West" had damned well better embrace the fact that today's Russian Federation is not (NOT) the old Soviet Union, and, that they have a leader today that has more sheer mentality and perspicacity than there is to be found in all of our prominent "Western" leaders put together....
     
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    I don't care when it was or who did it. The fact remains that America is guilty of invasion, wars of aggression, regime manipulation and overthrow (even, ironically, democracies) and has been prosecuted and found guilty of doing the same. Naturally the cowardly US won't recognise any court ruling which might prove embarrassing or ego-deflating.

    http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/?sum=367&p1=3&p2=3&case=70&p3=5
     
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    Again a prime exemple of brits hypocrisy. Your own country past history invalidate any condemnation or judgement that you make on how other countries behave. Start by paying us and other who've been exploited by you for century before even attempting to judge someone else.
     
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    Yes, the past. We stopped, retreated from the empire building which America is continuing with. What the hell are we supposed to pay you for? How about you pay the Vietnamese, Lao and Cambodians for the needless deaths you caused-and are still causing. How about you pay Japan for the continuing genetic defects their babies are being born with following the nuclear bombings? And you call me a hypocrite...
    US global popularity is in the tank. Can you guess why?
     
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    Why would I have to pay anything to the Viet or Lao or cambodian. I'm not an American... But I'm living in one of your ex colony so I have every right to tell you to shove it!

    As for the past... Your country is a willing participant in Afghanistan, Iraq... You and the french bombed Libya and are just as pro active when it comes to Syria. You were also the main reason for the coup in Iran. You are also the main cause of the conflict in the Middle east, you and the french. So, in other word, when it comes to accusations and passing judgement you can bloody well (*)(*)(*)(*) off!
     
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    Russian never attack. Russian only defend. And to protect the freedom of others. For example, Barack Obama has signed a law extending the permission for total surveillance of the population. Americans live in a fascist state. But you do not worry. The Red Army will set you free.
     
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    A trolling we will go, A trolling we will go, hee hii hoo, A trolling we will go....
     
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    Hitler said the same thing when he invaded the Sudentenland.
     
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    You're talking about a Polish-German-Hungarian invasion? Which approved the Western countries on the Munich Agreement in 1938? Is not it?
     
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    LOL, you mean the Allies did nothing to stop it, just like they are doing now with Putin.
     
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    My words about what Obama signed into law to extend the authorization for the surveillance of the population you call - trolling?
     
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    The way you're saying it, yes it's trolling.
     
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    Do not make me laugh.
    . They can only hide in a corner and weep. But in no way can influence Putin.

    I mean - approved the start of the Second World War. For example. Such as the attack on Libya and killing the elected head of state - Gaddafi. And the like.
     
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    This law was not even in Nazi Germany .... But you say - trolling! Amazing!
     
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    Just like nobody could influence Hitler. The comparisons just keep coming.
     
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    If you compare it - with Stalin. Hitler lost the war. Russian soldiers hoisted the flag over the Reichstag.

    By the way ... what is your comment about Libya and Gaddafi? Double standards? As usual?
     
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    The way you're posting is trolling. You don't just post to say something, you post to get a reaction. That is trolling.
     
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    All the people say to get a reaction. Except the psychiatric patients of course. All people - trolls?
     
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    No just you... You just can't seem to be able to post anything without playing that pseudo russ-glish caricature of yours and trying to incite a flamewar. When have you posted anything without adding some form of over the top theatrics to it? Are you really interested in an actual debate or are you, just like those couple of brits, just here to bash others?
     
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    Getting reactions from those who are deluded, decieved and collectively insane is unavoidable when talking outside their comfortable boxes.
     
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    I've noticed that about the Pravda Forums flunkies who washed up here...:lol:
     
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    This is CHEST THUMPING by the Russian's and Putin specifically and I know a great deal about him and what I worry about is his sheer viciousness and ability to accept any loss to the PEOPLE OF RUSSIA.

    Putin is not going to launch Nukes as he is well aware that U.S. and U.K. Ohio Class and Vanguard Subs posses the ability with their Trident D-5 MIRVed SLBM Missiles.....to DIRECTLY STRIKE NOT ONLY RUSSIAN SILOS DEAD ON BUT MOBILE SS-20 LAUNCHERS.

    Back when the London Olympics were about to happen the U.K. was extremely worried about the possibility of a DIRTY BOMB being used by some Terrorist Group so the U.K. asked the U.S. if the U.S. could send over our Radiation Detection Units which as based in Aircraft, Satellites, Drones, Vehicles...etc....as the United States has without a doubt the very best and highest level of Radiation Detection Capability on the Planet.

    In fact the U.S. System is so sensitive it detected a possible threat that ended up being A HOSPITALS RADIATION THERAPIES LAUNDRY!!! LOL!!

    Point is....we can track all SS-20 Mobile Lanchers and as the United States has allowed the U.K. to purchase and use the Trident D-5 MIRVed Nuclear Warhead Missile System for their Vanguard Class Subs.....along with the Ohio Class American Subs with this same system.....DIRECT HIT'S ARE POSSIBLE!!

    Now the Soviet Union and Russia considered a DIRECT STRIKE....which they have NEVER been able to accomplish....at a distance of 1000 Meters from the target....they say it is 750 Meters that they consider a Direct Hit but we know it is 1000 Meters and this is why the Soviet Union and Russia has always had to use a GREATER KILOTONAGE AND EVEN MEGATONAGE to make up for innacurate Nuclear Missiles.

    The Trident D-5's recorded ACTUAL DIRECT HITS......as within a 10 Meter circle.

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    As you accurately point out, today's Russia is in possession of more nuclear weapons than any other country on Earth. They have also developed, and have deployed new submarines and missile systems -- Borei-class subs, and Bulava missiles. And, less than six months ago, they stood up an entirely new military command -- the Arctic Joint Strategic Command: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Joint_Strategic_Command_(Russia)

    I cannot help but remember the world as it was in 1939... the French were certain that their magnficent Maginot Line would deter any possible invasion by its German neighbor. I remember that Great Britain was proud of its uncontested superiority with powerful battleships on the world's oceans -- Rule Brittania!

    Within a year of the initiation of hostilities, of course, France had been conquered by the Nazis who were then busying themselves bombing England at will. For fifteen years, Vladimir Putin has been very carefully and forcefully building the Russian Federation's military forces, and its materiel and weaponry. He's smarter, more determined, more experienced, and far more of a chess-player than all of his "Western" counterparts. Right now he seems to be on a trajectory to cement a successful alliance with the Chinese. If realized, it will be a master-stroke, and it should give "the West" something to think about, in DEPTH, for a long time to come....

    Meanwhile, we continue to elect, and re-elect, empty-suit, naive, incompetent nothings like Barack Obama. It is a a luxury that we cannot afford!
     
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