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  1. WAN

    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are free to think whatever you want. Now if you are not going to bring forth anything productive, I am going to stop responding to you.
     
  2. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    You can't provide evidence, though.

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    Religion has opinions on YOU, however - Jesus thinks that you are such scum (I don't, however, I love you regardless of your religion) if you don't believe in him that he'll see that you suffer more than Saddam ever even dreamed about torturing his worst enemy - according to the Bible, arguably.
     
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    Crawdadr Well-Known Member

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    I would not even try it would be hubris to believe that I can prove the unknowable. Anyone that says I can prove that God exists is either a liar or a fool.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Translation: If one does not entertain your Holocaust denial thread, run away.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    My Great Grandparents, Great Aunt and Great Uncle were killed by the Nazis, I believe in Scheparowce Forest as they lived close. I have a picture of my Great Grandfather after his family was murdered as the Nazis enslaved the men before eventually killing them. I have no doubt that the Holocaust occurred. I have no doubt that my family was exiled from the Middle East before ending up in Kolomyya.
     
  6. WAN

    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't dispute that the Nazis put groups of people in camps, however I have heard that some of the people put in there died due to shortages of food and medicine supplies.

    Are you Jewish?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The usual Holocaust denier narrative. True only to the extent that the torture endured by the Nazi work and death camps caused their deaths.
     
  8. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course you omit the fact that they were denied food and medicine and worked to death and when that took too long they began to gas them so they could save their bullets for defense of those they had attacked.

    What difference does it make whether a person is Jewish, a Jehovah Witness, or Romanian Gypsy? They were all singled out for genocidial murder.
     
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    Caligula Well-Known Member

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    It's very clear what you stated. You're really surprised that there are people who believe the Holocaust happened though they never witnessed it?
    I think I made the idiocy of that quite clear in my post that you quoted.
    Gee, your line of argument sounds really smart.
    Congrats.


    Very, very obvious.
     
  10. WAN

    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did I say that I was "surprised" that there are people who believe the Holocaust happened, or are you putting words in my mouth? And no, you have made NOTHING obvious. I clearly stated my intention was NOT to prove that Holocaust did not happen. But if you choose to read into my statements whatever you want, have at it.
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Are you a moron?
     
  12. WAN

    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Insulting another poster on this forum is against the rules. If you disagree with what I say, then by all means try to present a counter-argument. If you can't, then stay quiet and let the rest of us talk.
     
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    Ok, so all history before one was born never happened.
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Well, ayone who thinks that the holocaust didnt occur must be a few tiles short of a roof...because
    it did...
     
  15. WAN

    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Note my OP. It was NOT my aim to prove that Holocaust did not happen, just because we did not witness it ourselves.

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    You know this because you saw it happen with your own eyes, right?
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Definitely...I was there
     
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    Thehumankind Well-Known Member

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    I did not see George Washington,
    But I believe that he is the first President of the United States of America.
     
  18. WAN

    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Read my OP. It was NOT my aim to prove that Holocaust did not happen, just because we did not witness it ourselves.
     
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    Thehumankind Well-Known Member

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    Yup, I did not see it happen,
    but I believe it happens the same as I believe in George Washington being the first president.
     
  20. WAN

    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not saying you are wrong. I am just saying that we should allow people to question Holocaust without throwing them in jail.
     
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    Thehumankind Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmm,
    maybe you are referring to Nazi Grandma?


     
  22. WAN

    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wasn't thinking of anybody when I made my statement. I was just stating a general principle. And also, that woman shouldn't have been fined or sentenced to prison.
     
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    Media Ignores Disturbing Alliance Between ‘Progressives’ and Anti-Semites.

    Edward Joffe and Leon Kanner were inseparable friends studying at Hebrew University in Jerusalem. But that all changed on a fateful February day in 1969, when members of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine bombed a SuperSol supermarket, ending the lives of both young men. So, you’ll understand my anger and revulsion when I saw the convicted mastermind of the terror attack, Rasmea Odeh, standing with Representative Jan Schakowsky as she addressed an anti-travel ban rally in Chicago last month.

    Odeh served 10 years in an Israeli prison before being released in a large-scale prisoner swap. She was also convicted of attempting to blow up the British consulate. Her trial was deemed fair by the International Red Cross, but today she is regarded as a victim of Zionist aggression—a darling of the Progressive movement and a jewel in their crown of contempt for the Jewish state.

    Marc Lamont Hill, Professor of African American Studies at Morehouse College and another up-and-coming Progressive leader, proudly voices his solidarity with Odeh and his allegiance to Dream Defenders, the Black Lives Matter offshoot that “embraces anti-Semitism and engages with terrorists.” During a 2016 trip to the Palestinian territories, the group was led around East Jerusalem by convicted terrorist and member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Mahmoud Jedda. Jedda served 17 years in Israeli prison for planting bombs.
    The Odeh lovefest continues next month, when anti-Israel Progressive advocacy group Jewish Voice for Peace will feature the convicted killer at their National Member Meeting. Odeh first made U.S. headlines in October 2014 after failing to mention her terror ties when she applied for naturalization and obtained U.S. citizenship. She was found guilty the following month and, since that time, has enjoyed the benefits of the U.S. judicial system appeals process that granted her a new trial this past December.

    Both Odeh and Jedda have blood on their hands—Jewish blood, to be precise. This is what makes these more recent developments so troubling. Full disclosure: I served as a senior adviser for a political campaign against Rep. Schakowsky in 2010. At that time, we raised the issue of Schakowsky’s featuring UPI journalist Helen Thomas at a fundraiser. The late standard bearer of the White House press corps was notorious for her disdain for the Jewish state. But I could never have imagined that the congresswoman, who represents one of the largest Jewish constituencies in the country, would be willing to share the stage with a killer.

    If a GOP official shared the stage with a convicted terrorist or notorious anti-Semite, The New York Times would feature the story on the front page for at least a week. But when Democrats consort with hate, it’s swept under the rug.

    For over a decade, a growing number of college campuses have become fertile ground for anti-Semitism, courtesy of the intersectionality of the Progressive movement.

    United against Israel, activists for LGBTQ rights, gender equality and anti-war efforts, joined by Black Lives Matter, have been hijacked by anti-Israel student groups who not only attack the Jewish state, but do so under the guise of their new code word for demonizing Jews—Zionists.

    Anti-Semitism watchdog groups such as AMCHA Initiative have documented that the likelihood of anti-Semitic incidents occurring on campuses with anti-Israel activity is nearly 100 percent. Anti-Israel activism doesn’t necessarily equate with anti-Semitism—in theory. But don’t hold your breath while you try to discern the difference.

    Since about lunchtime on January 20, the mainstream media has decided to take an interest in anti-Semitism. But you won’t see them reporting the Progressive/anti-Semitism alliance. Rather, they are focused solely on President Trump and the anti-Semitic activity being spewed in his name by neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

    These bigots have been promoting hate long before Trump was president. Granted, I wish the president would be more vocal about condemning their rhetoric. But in contrast to this president, whose daughter, son-in-law and grandchildren are observant Jews, I’m far more concerned with a media that ignores genuine hate promulgated by leftist professors and student groups on college campuses, as well as intersectionality that turns nearly every leftist rally into an anti-Zionist hate fest.

    http://observer.com/2017/02/jan-schakowsky-alliance-progressives-anti-semites-rasmea-odeh/
     
  24. Thehumankind

    Thehumankind Well-Known Member

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    Do you think that she does not have a lawyer to defend her and she was litigated unfairly,
    in a legal system all is based on facts and not hearsays.
     
  25. WAN

    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has nothing to do with whether I think she had adequate legal counsel. My main beef is that these types of laws should not have existed.
     

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