Trump Fires Comey as F.B.I. Chief, Citing Clinton Email Inquiry

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  1. Jimmy79

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    The only people the President can fire are political appointees. Anyone Trump nominates will have to recuse themself from this investigation. There are likely a half dozen US attys and hundreds of agents involved. None of the Agents are political appointees and therefore cannot be fired by the president.

    Now that I have put everyone's mind at ease over the investigation can we move on to finding an honest, apolitical cop to run the FBI?
     
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    Correct. Some are acting like the only person involved in investigating is Comey. A one man show.
     
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    Then why have they on convened at least two grand juries?
    And have issued warrants?
    (They exact type of are not yet known.)
     
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    Given that Eric Holder supports firing Comey and that Comey's immediate boss in the DOJ, an Obama appointed former USA, denounced Comey and called for him to be fired I doubt that all this sudden support for Comey will be very persuasive to many. It just makes the DP look helpless and rather silly.
     
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    Now that is a very good question.
     
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    The DP refused to confirm his AG.
     
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    corruption lol, his family is in the seat of senior adivisor, his family business is making huge sum of $$ in china, Russia due to family connection. if this was not corruption, I don't know what is. he gonna put a trump loyalist to be FBI director and stop investigate Russia hack during election.
     
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    You have failed to articulate exactly how the firing of Comey will have any impact whatsoever on any ongoing FBI investigations. You need to do that to support your OP, else it's just partisan propaganda in support of the voluminous anti-Trump FUD campaign.
     
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    And who do you now think should run the FBI?
     
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    I'm sure trump will put his loyalist on that seat, and we wont hear anything negative about trump from FBI side ;) better yet, the new director would say trump-Russia hack is a sham.
     
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    Unsupported supposition and nothing but partisan anti-Trump propaganda, at this point.

    There is a nomination and confirmation process. Do you think Trump just picks his buddy to be FBI Director? Do you think Trump can just "put his loyalist on that seat"? Try to be a little intellectually honest.
     
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    This is all rather predictable, what is surprising is how the Democrats, who have so much riding on this, can't seem to control developments.

    Common sense should have cautioned Democrats from buying into disappointed Hillary's first explanation for her loss, but they decided to pursue this. After a few months investigating and not much to show for it, they should've moved on, but by then their 'base' was excited at the prospect of proving Trump was actually in collusion with these Russians, so it goes on.

    With only suggestion, implication, suspicion and inuendo, their orchestrated leaks start generating implications of their own and the nation sees the writing on the wall; a fully politicized intelligence community, law enforcement and justice department -this should worry the citizenry, it looks just like what we know are traits in repressive systems.

    The people in the US are unaccustomed to this politically motivated use of law enforcement, intelligence and justice, they perceive this is not good at all and can see where it's coming from as the list of implicated grows; Obama, Hillary, Lynch, Yates, Comey... and all of this from leaks. Who decides what to leak, what is the basis for this decision?

    Unless the Democrats coordinate their leaking much better they'll be dealing with these surprises all along the way. I think people like Hillary, Pelosi and Schumer should carefully consider everything they did that could in any way relate to this politicizing of the intelligence community and ask themselves if that implication would look really good to the average citizen in a situation where there ultimately is no evidence of Trump colluding -before they go off demanding more investigation, special prosecutors and independent committes.
     
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    Yet, after all these coordinated leaks, we still have no smoking gun. Would it not stand to reason that, given the leak environment, if there was true evidence of collusion, it would have been leaked long ago?
     
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    ROGER STONE FOR FBI DIRECTOR!

    lulz...
     
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    I assure you, it's a sham. It doesn't take a year of looking under every rock to produce one single shred of evidence, if it exists. Comey was going to slow walk this so-called investigation all the way in to the 2018 mid-term elections.
     
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    Me.
     
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    That depends on what you think is the purpose of this investigation. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, I suppose some leading Democrats may have thought Russian collusion is the only possible explanation for Trump's election; there was indicia of some Russian connection (Guccifer), maybe they thought there could be something more (Trump's collusion).

    As no evidence of their suspicious was found, I think they figured the investigation alone would help keep this cloud of suspicion over Trump and help support this uncertainty over his legitimacy, that this would give them a political advantage, that they could then present themselves as the genuine government free of suspicion.

    As the investigation proceeds and no smoking gun, the implication of all this monitoring, sharing information and leaking it is getting rather smelly.
     
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    Days Before He Was Fired, Comey Asked for Money for Russia Investigation


    By MATTHEW ROSENBERG and MATT APUZZOMAY 10, 2017

    • F.B.I. director, asked the Justice Department for a significant increase in money and personnel for the bureau’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the presidential election, according to three officials with knowledge of his request.

      Mr. Comey asked for the resources during a meeting last week with Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general who wrote the Justice Department’s memo that was used to justify the firing of the F.B.I. director this week.

      Mr. Comey then briefed members of Congress on the meeting in recent days.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/...ackage-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
     
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    If Comey wasn't fired, the investigation would have been going on forever without any proof or reason until the Democrats were voted back in. Enough is enough, he should have been fired a long time ago. There are too many things that should be investigated by the FBI than going along with the politic games of a bunch of sore losers.

    One has to wonder just how compromised was Comey that he would be so fearful of ending the farce. What kind of a threat was he under? If so then Trump did him a big favor by ending it once and for all.
     
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    Even without a leak, we wouldn't have the FBI stating that they have found no evidence of collusion, if they had evidence of collusion.
     
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    Yet we have SEVERAL high ranking officials publicly stating that they have never seen a shred of evidence of collusion. Never mind the completely freaking obvious fact that Putin needed NO INCENTIVE to smear Hillary, and clearly would have done it regardless of the GOP candidate.
     
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    On this "unmasking":
    The used the wrong category for their statistics:
    What reasons justify unmasking, where these why those 2,232 were unmasked? How do we know there wasn't some political motive?
    What do you make of this ballooning demand for records of monitored communications of US citizens, do you think more citizens threaten national security than ever before, or could it be "political"?
     
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    It has been revealed that there is now an active grand jury investigation. The FBI has no control over a grand jury.
     
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    Correct.

    “When FBI Director James B. Comey stepped to the lectern to deliver his remarks about Hillary Clinton on Tuesday, he violated time-honored Justice Department practices for how such matters are to be handled, set a dangerous precedent for future investigations and committed a gross abuse of his own power.” WASHINGTON POST,James Comey’s abuse of power, By Matthew Miller, director of the Justice Department’s public affairs office from 2009 to 2011.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...d_story.html?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.66a26f8557a3
     
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    “Washington (CNN)Federal prosecutors have issued grand jury subpoenas to associates of former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn seeking business records, as part of the ongoing probe of Russian meddling in last year's election, according to people familiar with the matter. CNN learned of the subpoenas hours before President Donald Trump fired FBI director James Comey.” CNN, CNN exclusive: Grand jury subpoenas issued in FBI's Russia investigation, By Evan Perez, Shimon Prokupecz and Pamela Brown, Wed May 10, 2017/
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/grand-jury-fbi-russia/index.html

    It has been revealed today that this investigation has been operating above the level of the FBI for some time.
     
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