Fifteen year old Israeli has NDE and predicts 70 nations unite against Israel.

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  1. DennisTate

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    Apparently another Israeli had a dream about a year before Natan's NDE that verified part of what he reported.


    http://destination-yisrael.biblesea...-revelation-of-a-secular-jewish-teenager.html
    I am hoping that prayer and teshuvah have put us into a significantly better time line than what may have already occurred in another example of Multiverse.
     
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    Actually I have and it proves nothing nor does it challenge my earlier statement.

    Like all prophets Brinkley does not claim to have had these visions and prophecies until well after the events in question. He claims he received these visions and messages before the events took place but he cannot and does not provide a any evidence for this claim whatsoever.

    It is said in one of your links that his visions were recorded in 1975 but no record is provided.

    This allmakes it nothing more than a baseless claim and once again no evidence at all of a real prophecy
     
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    I am glad that you did read his book but
    I am kind of sad that you have became so extremely
    skeptical.

    Isn't it rather obvious from the fact that after his NDE, Dannion
    has done over 32,000 hours of volunteerism through
    The Twilight Brigade that Dannion personally considers his
    experience to have been real........ and worth changing his life for?

    http://www.thetwilightbrigade.com/dannion-brinkley.htm

     
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    There is nothing sad about skepticism which is far more intelligent than the gullibility you display.

    Volunteerism does not prove anything much less an NDE or OOBE.

    No it is not obvious at all that he anything but another kook.

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence which you have never provided any of in any of these threads you start.
     
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    But..... Dr. Melvin Morse referred to a study in his book
    Transformed By The Light where one group of people who had
    recently attempted suicide...... .were simply given NDE accounts to
    read as a therapy.

    Zero people from this group attempted suicide again during the duration
    of the study.

    A significant percentage of us begin to rise up in our ability to
    cope with life's challenges just by seeing evidence that there is
    some sort of logical plan being worked out.......
    The Richard Dawkins Ph. D. ideas on life having no real higher purpose
    leaves people with no hope
    hardly at all.

    Thank you for continuing the debate.

    Some of those people in the study group could well have been just as skeptical as
    you are....... but simply researching this topic may have changed their behaviour and
    made them less prone to attempting suicide.

    Infinite time in the past....... X .....fundamental energy operating at Some Trillions the magnitude of the energy generated in a Vacuum Chamber = an infinitely high probability of Intelligence first developing in fundamental or nearly fundamental energy.......(This theorem is actually pretty simple and obvious)... but the implications are scary...... .that I must admit.

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/
     
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    It's truly amazing how duped white Christians are by their Jewish masters. Jews killed your savior Jesus Christ (who was a Jew himself), genocided your European ancestors (through their Roman converts) and destroyed the religions and cultures that were in practice for tens of thousands of years. They flooded your European countries with non-Europeans and are paying them to have more children than the native populations (effectively taking over these countries in a few generations), and in spite of all of this, you worship Jews every Sunday, give your money to their organizations, support their "art" in Hollywood, get your news from their media. And, to top it all off, when the world rejects their supremacist ethno-state (the same kind of ethno-state they make sure that your people will never have), they come up with lies involving the "rapture" that will befall you and yours unless you defend their ethno-state to the last fiber of your being (oh, and be sure to donate some shekels for the cause, goy).

    Wake up, white Christians. There has never been a group more hostile to your interests ... why do you defend them so vigorously?
     
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    I believe that this is happening right now in 2017..... but we humans have astonishing power in
    our ability to make choices....... that set in motion very different results than if we make worse choices......
    ......

    Zechariah 12:8

    "In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them."

    There is hidden meaning in this verse....... sometimes G-d has to make somebody feeble.....
    to raise up King David within them...... For example young Natan who was only fifteen years old
    back in 2015 is more like King David than anybody in Israel that I know of at this time.... but he
    had a near death experience in order to be raised up to what could be termed Davidic level Consciousness.

    King David was like Elijah..... and just as Elijah mentored his student Elisha to have a double portion
    of the Holy Spirit so also....... Natan..... will be instrumental in mentoring Israelis to be at a level that they
    will NOT most fear Christians..... .and fear Americans...... but instead they will see within at least some Christians
    potential Moshiach ben Ephrayim's much as I have found a perfect candidate for that role:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-for-the-role-of-elijah-needed.499830/page-3
     
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    Another Jewish near death experiencer speaks.....

     
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    doesn't that mean the end is near to many.. so how about we never build it then... why would anyone want it all to end

    it's said when he comes again he will be much different ....

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 19:11-16&version=KJV

    11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

    12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

    13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

    14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

    15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
     
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    Good question.......
    that does sound kind of scary......
    but even though Messiah Yeshua - Jesus - Issa will slay the wicked......
    we don't know yet exactly what that means...... because it could mean something along the line
    of what happens in my wife's Pentecostal church when they go through a "Fire Tunnel??"

    My wife is often on the floor.... she cannot walk all the way through.....
    and she often laughs and laughs in a somewhat uncontrollable manner......
    and the first time that it ever happened to her she praised G-d in a dialect of India......
    because somebody in the room was from India.... and recognized
    some of what she was saying in "tongues / glossalia."

    By the year 2185 the world will look like this......
    once we finally assist the Jewish people to fulfill Ezekiel 47......

    Isaiah 11:4 "But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.


    And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

    The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them."


    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04
     
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    Natan spoke about Gog..... and identified Gog.....
    and I want to make sure that I hear this video so that I can compare what Natan said with
    what Rabbi Alon Anava was shown on this same topic......

    His near death experience took place around 2001....


     
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    Don't have 3 hours to listen to the dude, but can you just tell who Gog is, Dennis?

    Acording to sadhu Sundar Servaraj, Turkey is "Gog & Magog".

     
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    Yes... it is President Obama.... and it is a few minutes after the thirty minute mark in this video if I remember correctly......

     
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    Yes, I know about the boy's prediction, I was refering to the last video, the one that is 3 hours long.

    Interesting, I thought Obama was no longer "fashionable", since he is out of the White House now and practically striped of power.
     
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    I think this is a great idea. Simply reading the bible and following with faith and humility while praising and worshipping will prepare us for anything to come. We may even understand that we don't need proof. All the proof we need has been given.
     
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    I finished four or five of his videos last week
    but I only got about half way through that one... so I don't have
    an exact explanation for Gog such as Natan gave yet......
    but what he taught about ancient Jewish predictions for the latter days was fascinating.... even in the first half of that video!

    Yes.... there is a point at which our being able to answer the riddles of life would be too easy for us......
    we must act in an ethical manner toward what we have been given......
    in spite of some valid doubts.
     
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    Valid for whom? Yes, even Thomas doubted. Didn't his experience teach a lesson? You seek proof. None will be given. Let me find it.

     
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    I consider one of the most valid doubts that
    many people have is why G-d allows such suffering......
    if G-d is all powerful?????

    Howard Storm Ph. D:
     
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    If..... former President Obama is indeed imprisoned......
    or threatened with prison time.......
    he might well agree to become an actor in a series of films that would need to be approved by
    President Donald J. Trump and / or V. P. Mike Pence themselves.......
    that would be win - win - win - win - win - win for more than ninety percent of
    Americans, Canadians and Israelis!
     
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    Yes but that contradicts the boy's prediction that Obama (Gog) will be killed and burried in Israel and whatnot.
     
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    Why would Obama want to be an actor?

    Why would anyone have to get OKd by Trump or Pence?

    The OP is about nations rising against Israel. Frankly, I really don't see any other way to make progress on peace in the ME except for nations other than the USA to "rise up". There is absolutely ZERO chance that Netanyahu is interested in that direction.

    And, the US is not interested in peace there, either.
     
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    I am assuming that this prediction could well come to pass:




    Mark Taylor Interview January 15 2018 - A Wave Of Arrests in February (Over Phone Interview)
     

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