Germany announces support for Assad

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  1. Sobo

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    Come and try.
     
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    I am talking about the post-war conclusion - not the fighting.

    The USA was BRILLIANT. The European war was another European war. We has little at stake. The war in the Pacific was over control of it.

    The USA allowed Germany, France, the UK and Russia - and the rest of Europe - to fight each to their own destruction - while we supplied the materials to assure Germany did not win. We then came in for the kill.

    When the war was over, there only remained two industrial powers - the USA and Russia. The others industries literally had been bombed out of existence. But Russia had been mostly smashed in the war on their homeland. Our homeland had not been touched and we had a massive level of industrialization. Rapidly, all European countries and Japan lost their colonies. Their empires ceased to exist as empires. There was only the American empire and Russian empire left.

    We isolated Russia holding it down - and cashed in. 40 cent of every dollar of the world was the American economy. Even a blue collar worker could earn enough so only one of the parents had to work, and still could afford a nice 3-1.5-1 frame house, a new car, and both leisure and vacation money. The 1950s was - for white people anyway - the USA's golden era, stretching well into the 1960s.

    But like a drunk, the spending because so great and irresponsible, that golden era came to an end - and now a slow, inevitable and unstoppable decline for the truly extreme gluttony of the past. The 40 cent of every world dollar being the USA economy is down to 15 cents - and still falling. The golden age, the economic and power glory years, lasted all of 3 decades at the most. The USA has been in economic decline ever since. Two American blue collar workers now can not earn the spending power of 1 blue collar worker in the 1950s.

    I say the USA "won the war" because after the war the USA dominated the entire world - economically, militarily, politically and for a large part culturally. English became the language of the world. Russia was the other military super power - but isolated and poor. The wealth, power and influence of the USA in relation to the rest of the world continues to decline - and will continue to do so.
     
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    Wish we would. But it won't happen. Global super rich and liberal zippy pinhead spoiled brat old white people control the media.

    Germany will continue to be a nation-size factory of worker bees, increasingly have to beg other countries and continuing to surrender to the Empire of Islam and to Russia. The fall of Germany is happening at a much faster rate than did the fall of Rome.

    WW2 destroyed Germany. The destruction of the German society over the 50 years after the war by Western liberal, German socialism and Russian communism non-stop propaganda infinitely more destroyed Germany than all the Allied bombings. Russia is a gas station. Germany is a factory. Europe is the next states of the Empire of Islam.
     
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    LOL. Germany used to be something? Every country on earth had its moment. It is just a question of how far in the past was that? Has nothing to do with the present - nothing all.

    A hundred years ago Germany defeated France. Forced a peace with Russia. Watch the time line flow and see Russia obliterate Germany and France win against Germany as well.

    Every country can claim at sometime in the past they won a war so its nothing. In your thinking, Mexico can claim it is a super power because the Atzecs conquered everyone. Venice is a world super power. The Dutch. The Swedes. The Spanish. The English. The Apaches and Comanches... All great military powers now for ancient conquests - a ludicrous claim you make.
     
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    Ok, I see your reasoning. Agree.
     
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    There is always a war going on somewhere in |Europe, they've killed millions all over the world because they've decided they're 'the master race' or have come up with an economic system which should be forced on every nation in the world.

    They've introduced 'multiculturalism' thinking that immigrants from very different societies will quickly adapt to their enlightened way of thinking when it is they who are having to adapt, and called 'racist' or 'islamophobic' if they don't.

    We see the sources of the Renaissance, the Enlightenment, the Magna Carta, Human Rights and Democracy and the Mother of Parliament embracing and legitimizing a backward religion where human rights are ignored and, in fact, discouraged. And they'll call the Americans racist, backward, dull witted and unsophisticated for not following their policies, forgetting why most Europeans fled to America in the first place.

    Europeans have been raised so certain of their superiority that it is a given when they become adults, and that idea constantly reinforced by their media. Of course if their culture was ever that great they woulldn't want or need 'multiculturalism'.
     
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    Right. They're still trying to cash checks on an account that was overdrawn a century ago. 'The Glory that was Rome', the 'Stiff Upper Lip', the Reichs of Germany and the Republics of France have come and gone while the unsophisticated Americans just keep going from strength to strength.
     
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    Actually not. Even my school building is older than your country.
     
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    We fight multiculturalism. Guess you didnt notice that neanwhile each government is far right.
     
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    If old buildings were the standard for enlightenment, power and influence then many places in North Africa and Asia would be Superpowers.

    Europe is interesting if looking at old buildings is your interest, and I certainly admire them and hold many in awe. But what of Europe's new buildings? They are monstrosities without character or form.

    All glory lies in Europe's past but none in its present and little to look forward to in its future.
     
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    It's sad your country is so broke it can't build new schools.
     
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    It's too late. Perhaps you're judging Europe by your own community and your own very strong feelings but the door has been opened and cannot be closed.

    Turns out that Enoch Powell, an infamous 'racist', was correct when he made his 'Rivers of Blood' speech but didn't realize at the time that his predictions would spread to all of Europe.
     
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    You propably mean your mother.

    Europe is center of humanity. Rest is worthless trash.

    What about Europe new buildings?

    Like the new Humboldt Forum in Berlin? Its under construction and opened next year.

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    Or the Elbphilharmonie, opened last year

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    You have nothing that comes even close.

    Europe is the continent with the highest living standards.
     
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    We have 5% foreignes in Germany. You have 20% negroid africans alone. We will not transform into a shithole like you. We fight it and that sucessful.

    And btw, the enemy are not muslims. Its USA. Muslims are a symptom, the cancer cell is USA.
     
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    Blacks have introduced more forms of music to the world to the point where one city, New Orleans, has produced more musical innovations than anything that ever came out of Europe.

    You still have Wagner, Hitler's favorite, but nothing since then.
     
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    Ha ha ha ha

    You call uga booga music?

    What is New Orleans? We have Wagner? Ever heared about Hans Zimmer?

    But move on, in Germany we want hard facts.

    List here evry music style from New Orleans and 3vry music style from Europe.

    I have bad news for you, even small vaticsn has more music inventions than your shithole.
     
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    In that respect it's a good thing that Europe (or Western Europe at least) has become fat, soft and "progressive". The glorious past that spread Empire and Communism/Socialism throughout the world brought death, destruction and exploitation with it. Even our forebears here in America had to put up with that.

    It's kinda sad to watch the dying embers of a once great civilization fading out, but Time and the world moves on. Had Europeans listened to Americans like Samuel Adams they might not have squandered their own Inheritance:

    "The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation enlightened as it is if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men."

    On the other hand, we would do well to heed the warnings of the Europeans whose countries have fallen into decline and ruin so that we don't suffer their fate, as well.

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    https://www.amazon.com/Warning-West-Aleksandr-Solzhenitsyn/dp/0374513341
     
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    Its funny. It really is. Over here we say we vote far right so Germany does not become a multiculti shithole like USA. Infact USA is what is used as negative example of a failed state.

    Decline and ruin?

    USA has 12 times higher rape rate, 21 times higher murder rate than Germany. We are an economic superpower. We have healthcare and almostb5 years higher life expectancy.

    You have highest child mortality in imdustrialized world. Rottem infrastructure. You have 20% negroids and 20% hispanics. Your shithole appears like a hellhole for us. And it functions as warning. The AfD wims massive here by promising to never allow that Germany sinks on US levels.
     
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    Eh, which music innovations you are talking about? This is rediculous to compare great composers like Beethoven, Wagner, Bach, Brams with some music from blacks. Everyone knows the music of Bach or Beethoven, and their music have excited many people for two centuries now, while these so called music innovations are not widely known and will dissapear in history.
     
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    Never heard of it.
    What innovation to music styles did Hans Zimmer ever create?
    Quite the opposite. You want fantasies of German superiority, which has never really existed.
    New Orleans brought the world Dixieland, and various forms of jazz while Europe has contributed nothing in last century, only variations of what began in the USA.
    And what was that?
    Black Americans have brought more musical joy to the world than anything to have come out of Europe, especially Germany. Germany is a joyless country and likely always will be.
     
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    Enjoy these composers myself but Europeans point to these people as an example of the greatest that was, just as they can point to great architecture of the past, or great literature of the past. But that is all in the past. Innovations in the arts and sciences tend to come from America, with only Britain offering any serious competition.

    I doubt Jazz, Rock and Roll, The Blues, Country Music, Bluegrass, or Rockabilly will disappear..
     
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    The headline for your opening post reads, "Germany announces support for Assad." That's not quite accurate. I read the article (German is one of my languages), and what several people in the German government are quoted as saying is that there is no solution to the war in Syria without talking to Assad. Admitting that he has to be part of the conversation is a far cry from supporting him.
     
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    I think you confused "freedom from thought" (Gedankenlosigkeit) with freedom of thought (Denkfreiheit). The poster meant "freedom from thought" as an insult (ihr seid unfähig zu denken). That's the opinion of the person you quoted; it's not my opinion.
     
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    To state that the US/UK/French military intervention is Syria was a complete success is quite an exaggeration. Things started to go wrong when Obama drew a line in the sand and stated that Syria would face serious consequences if it used chemical weapons against its own population. Assad called Obama's bluff and now with the assistance of Russia and Iran is decimating the country's civilian population.
     
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    The poster said the 'mission' was a complete success while you're referring to 'military intervention'.

    Obama was indecisive, ingratiating, and an intellectual powder puff, and that's well known, though he had great appeal in Europe. In fact they awarded him the Nobel Prize for his political campaign.
     
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