Well, there is a reason women drain themselves in all those beauty products and spend loads of money and time at the hair salon - they seek to increase their external value. Average looking women can be picked up by above-average men, but an average looking man rarely goes out with an above average woman. And in the rare occassions we see this happen, the man in question has a high internal value such as a high status job. The general rule, however, is that "10's" go with "10's" and "4's" go with "4's" etc.
All women? You obviously never met my ex wife. Women are no better than men. Some deserve to be loved. Others don't.
Really? Beautiful people are indeed happier, a new study says, but not always for the same reasons. For handsome men, the extra kicks are more likely to come from economic benefits, like increased wages, Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scie...ttractive-worth-80414787/#VUjWRLRpSJmOv6te.99 On the average, tall men also make more money than short men. The advantage of being attractive applies to both sexes.
Obviously WOMEN was a general statement, I most certainly have no respect or even minor like for my ex-wife.
Interesting take...I have personally recognized and used my "External Value" on multiple occasions to great benefit. I also use my "Internal Value", often after the external has accomplished its intended purpose. It may be that YOU feel no external value for yourself but this does not apply for the rest of us.
I have met a lot of women over the last few years. They always want to impress and get all decked out. And that's fine for the first few dates. But I have noticed an interesting phenomenon. They think beauty is a function of fashion and makeup. They don't get the concept of intrinsic beauty. They don't understand that you can take away all of the makeup and clothes and still have essential beauty. They don't understand that men see things women don't. My first sb was all worried about me seeing her morning face. What she didn't know was that I would often lay and watch her sleeping, admiring her beauty. She didn't need to do a thing to be beautiful. She was born that way. I have also seen women on a mission to educate men. They actually think we don't know that women look different without all the makeup. I remember one posting photo after photo of women with and without makeup. Jesus!!! We all had mothers! We've all had girlfriends and wives. They think we're stupid. And ironically, this is a ramification of the feminist movement. They have trained women to think men are all dumb. That said, if a woman wants to wow me and get all decked out. Great! It is appreciated. That's always fun. But it isn't necessary.
If you ask me, there is nothing more beautiful than a naked woman [who takes care of herself]. No clothes in the world can top that!
I will just never understand this. For folks who claim that they are offended at the idea that they are perceived as "objects", it seems super conflicted to then spend so much time making sure that they are viewed that way.
Yes, there is obviously something called male beauty too, but compared to female beauty, it weighs very little. Thei hierarchy is organised in such way that an average looking female can get with an above average looking male, but the opposite is close to impossible.
It weighs quite a bit for the man and this lessens the weight of beauty (physical) in the woman. In my experience when a man knows he can be attractive to the extremely attractive woman and takes advantage of it, the phsical becomes less important that the internal beauty...when both internal and external come into play, addiction ensues.
Uh, she does not look like any two bit hooker I have ever seen! A million dollar hooker maybe, but not a two bit hooker. My little brother had a poster of Welch on his bedroom wall when I got back from Nam. I spend quite some time staring at her and enjoying what I beheld. I would say that of his generation and my own, we would have chosen Welch over Hepburn any day of the week, or better, any night of the week! Robert, ole buddy, given we are around the same age, you have excellent tastes!! And somehow when I looked at Welch, the last thing that I thought of was....trashy! Skinny women was never my thing.
No, but outer beauty is because it is entirely mathematical. Not every building is a Cathedral, not every painting is a Mona Lisa, not every author is a Shakespeare and not every woman is a Katie Upton. Beauty is real, objective and can be measured. I understand why some may have objections to ranking people based on their looks because every person is indeed more than just their face. However, beauty cannot- and is never ignored. I have lived in the same city all my life. Here we have Gothic cathedral from the 1400's. I have seen it a trillion times, yet every time I walk past it, I stop and stare in awe - jawdropping beauty. Every time I step inside, my knees get weak.
Something is beautiful because it is complex and interesting, often unique in some way. Think about it. Maybe you can come to a new understanding about beauty and stop ranking women as 1-10. I think there are people who are very beautiful too and have sometimes wished I were a sculptor. But their beauty is in certain qualities they have, not in a pre-measured formula.
Qualities this and qualities that. I have already told you that I am talking about physical beauty, the kind that is independent of personality and other internal factors. I don't even normally use numbers to rate people because I find it demeaning and that is why I put the numbers in quotations the only time I used the "1-10 scale".
Of course it is, if it wasn't we would not know Sophia Loren, Grace Kelly and the other actresses mentioned in here are beautiful, would we?
Grace Kelly and Sophia Loren are famous at least as much for the force of their personalities as their physical appearance. Left only to their physicality, they would be unknown and not considered any more special than most pretty women. If you look at art, art is not just a pretty painting or sculpture: it is the depth of emotion and thought that the painter puts into a painting that makes it beautiful. The Mona Lisa does not depict a beautiful woman. It is the force of the painter's personality that makes the painting great. It is the same thing with film, literature, music, dance, etc. Two photographers can take a picture of the same thing or place, but one evokes great beauty while the other is dull and plain. It is the force of imagination, character, thought and perspective that goes into the work the photographer uses that makes the picture beautiful. W/O all the window dressing, if Sophia Loren or Grace Kelly walked down the street, you'd barely notice them.
Indeed, but that is beside the point - Loren and Kelly are gorgeous regardless of their fame and talent. Are they not? Yeah, but so what? You really sure 'bout that, fam? I am a straight male, I can smell a pretty gal from miles away.
You have to be kidding, only Right wing enjoy silly titillating type porn, but Left wing folks are virtuous ?? Don't you see how vacuous a statement that is ? You will find that in every political group in equal measure. The Left started the page boy scandals.
Melania? Paula Jones? Amy Lindsay? http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/stevenwaldman/2009/02/the-red-states-porn-habit.html https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Business/story?id=6977202&page=1 https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...servatives-use-more-pornography-than-liberals I can give you thousands of similar sites. Everybody knows that pornography is a right winger's delight because of their sick minds.
Here's an example of an observation that solidifies what I'm saying. I was sitting in a busy train station in Europe one time. I had some time to wait and I'm a people watcher. So I was watching people walking by and watching the people watching them. I noticed that when women walked by who were fashionably dressed in flattering clothes, with their hair done, shoes with heels that made them walk in a sexy way, makeup, jewellery, etc., the men always looked up and watched them walk by. It was the way they walked, the way they were dressed, the way that they presented themselves to the world. None of them were particularly special in their looks underneath all the flash and sparkle. Then a woman walked by who was actually very naturally beautiful. She had on no makeup, was wearing jeans, a tee shirt and a jacket, nothing special or tight or anything. A hat hid her hair, no jewellery, nothing to attract attention. She wore flat boots and walked with purpose, not in any sexy or flouncy way. Not one man looked up and watched her walk by. Not one man paid the least bit of attention to her. To men, female beauty is flash and sparkle, not real beauty. That woman was not only naturally beautiful, but the fact she didn't mask it with all the female trappings brought it out more strongly than any of the others who were noticed and were truly not nearly as good looking as she was. Now I'm not gay, totally heterosexual. And not comparing myself to someone like her or the others; I'm too old to worry about that. As someone who is deeply interested in art and beauty, I know there is far more to it than just what is on the surface, and I know as far as female beauty goes, most men are totally distracted by flash and sparkle. .
This is a cute little anecdote that, unfortunately, fills no purpose. I have never denied that beauty is a spectrum where one strong factor can compensate for a weaker one; however, in terms of physical beauty, tnere is some real science suggesting that it is objective and rooted in evolution - men are not all about "flash and sparkle", it is all about fertility and youth. Men couldn't care less about pearl necklaces and nail polish. If we did, we would pay for that silly crap too. You are right in that beauty is much deeper than skin when it comes to establishing long-term romance, but in the short moment of watching people pass by as you are waiting for your train at the railway station, beauty is all about facial traits, body type and overall presentation. It is our inner ape telling us: "I want those genes!" PS. Of course someone who is "flashy" will get more looks (isn't that their purpose of dressing up?).
