Banks who will not loan to gun MFGs, get tough legal blowback

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...adache/ar-AAwJoEF?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=HPCOMMDHP15

Don't mess with us 5 million or more NRA members. We vote more than most groups and get a ton of support from non NRA members.

 

wells fargo bank is rifle/ double barrel shotgun friendly

 

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I own the lifelike kit of the stagecoach from the 1950s, I collect old plastic western and military kits.

 

and you drive a fake Harley too and don't own a Thompson machine gun..
what up with thaaaaat!

 

Its no Harley (though one of my daughters drives one) and never claimed it was. Since I wrecked it in 2015, after 50 years of bikes, it was my last ride. Luck is the only reason I am alive. Got to old to react to dangers like woodchucks in the road on sharp curves. And yes, that is a REAL Thompson I legally own. My 2nd wife (who died of cancer in 1999 and I owned a gun store. I shut the store and sold most everything a year after she died, as I travel for a living and could not take care of it. Just an old relic of the business opportunities you sometime get.

 

Yeah, I have a lady friend that has three Harley’s and wants me to go riding all the time but anymore I realize how fast things can go wrong and how little you can do about it. Been riding since I was 16 but this now keeps me from enjoying it like I used to when I was young and felt invincible.

I have a Honda now and get guff about it but have had Harley’s, dirt bikes, and crotch rockets before. It’s just a bike.

 

Here is just one small shelf of kits I own from 1953-1975. It is a disease I have called hording! Last count, 6500+ kits in my collection. I got more money than brains to buy things I don't need. I spent the first 2/3 of my life collecting and buying things I don't need, now I am spending my last 1/3 of my life getting rid of them. I need to stay home for awhile and clean the shed out hahahaha.

 

MORE, and it's just the tip of the iceberg.

 

I never was impressed with Harley's anyways. Just a status symbol I never cared to own and spend money for. I bought that bike new from a dealer friend of mine who was going out of business and it was his last road bike. It was a 2008 Hysung and I purchased it from him in 2011 new for $2300. Couldn't turn down a deal like that! NICE bike to ride and maintain and low to the ground for my short legs. I use to get it dirty riding around the farm we live on, but knew it would be a non human animal that would get me. hehehehe and it did, and it almost got me permanently. 12 broken ribs (lucky no lung punctures), a torn right shoulder, a torn right hip, lost most of my front teeth due to a helmet failure. I was in intensive care for 5 days and a long convalescents on only aspirin and Tylenol. I threw away the drugs they gave me for pain. I saw what happen to Rush and didn't want to get addicted to anything at 65 years of age.

 

The only one I have is an original kit of a Sopwith Camel from the 60s.

 

Revell 1/72 or Aurora 1/48? Or airfix 1/72. You can buy that top shelf from me in the second picture. I will give you a deal for it for $5500. Again, I have more money than brains and now that I am going to be 68 in a couple of month, I am getting rid of things. I am going to retire from being an civil engineer and stay home and get rid of crap. Got still about 65 mostly new guns left over from the store and need to sell them too. Just so much crap....
At least I didn't have to sell the motorcycle, it was totaled, and almost me with it.

 

Too bad the NRA is going down!

You do know they're lawyering up because they got caught funneling Russian money into the trump campaign, right?

A traitorous organization that hides behind the flag and depends on the naivety of their supporters.

 

Revell if I recall. Got it stored away somewhere. 65 here and will work as long as I can since I love my job. Got plenty of crap that I need to get rid of too.

 

Is that your story and you are sticking to it!. Hope the anti-gun people just keep thinking that. IF that's what it takes to keep our constitution alive, so be it.hahahahaha. Wouldn't it be delicious irony if it were true??? Our constitution and civil rights saved by the Russians? How sweet is that?

If Trump gets his way, he will drive the illegal aliens out of our country at the point of a gun and protect our borders the same way. 4-4 of the constitution says the federal government will protect the states from invasion. 12-40 million illegals IS an invasion via infiltration of an army, the biggest in history. But that is another thread.
Would that be GREAT!

Go trump go!!!

 

Oh yea, to quote chaiman Mao." All political power comes out of the barrel of a gun", and he proved it with his army and the death of 40 MILLION UNARMED Chinese subjects.

People who are anti gun are signing their and their decedents death warrants.

 

So? What does that have to do with banks?

They're free to lend to whomever they please.

 

Yes they are, but they are also put at risk for backlash from both customers and legislators who set their rules.

 

Think of it like this.

A business submits application for a loan, meets all the criteria, has a solid business plan, has collateral but then when the owner goes in to sign the paper the bank pulls the deal.

Why?

Because the owner is Black.

Now substitute a Black owned business for a business that deals in firearms.

Its discrimination, and why on earth should it be allowed?

These banks exist because of us, our tax dollars have literally prevented their collapse, and the thanks we get for this is prejudicial policies rooted in bigotry over a thing that is a Constitutional freakin' right?

I don't think so, there is no way this can be allowed.

I'll put it to you another way Tom.

Citigroup's polices force retailers to deny the sale of firearms to persons under 21 regardless of the laws of that State less they be unable to process payments or conduct business with Citigroup.

What if that same bank decided it would force retailers to deny the sales cake, dresses, invitations, and other wedding essentials to homosexual couples?

Would you still be sitting here saying "well they're free to do what they please"?

Would you be ok with that discrimination as well?

 

holy crap that was bad.
i laid down a 450 twin honda about 10 years ago just bruised a few ribs scrap up my left knee and left pinky finger was jam sprain , thought in was going to die LOL, sold it a short time latter didn't want that anymore of that! i notice a healed slower at a older age and lost a month of pay at work on top of it

 

Discrimination in and of itself is not forbidden. It is, in fact, a large part of all businesses, and of life itself. ONLY discrimination based on certain protected classes is prohibited and these classes are not chosen arbitrarily. Supporting or not supporting the NRA is not one of them much as most of the gun advocates here would like it so.


You are free to found your own bank, and so is the NRA. You can have little stagecoaches instead of armored cars, wouldn't that be neat?

 

Wow you are all over the place.

First banks and industries are constantly denying loans and policies to entities they either deem to be too risky or that they do not feel comfortable getting involved in.

Second, your cake example is specifically targeting a specific group, not an entire industry. A more appropriate example would be the bank decided not to issue loans to bakeries - but that would be less of a strawman and not y’all style. It’s funny because most of the people that are ok with a bakery targeting a protected group of people are the ones upset about this even though they are in no way shape or form comparable.


What is disgusting is that people that’s are “small government” are cheering because of political posturing. Politicians are actively misusing their political power and y’all are all for it because it fits in with your narrative.

 

They are protectors of the Constitution of the United States, just like the ACLU.
Oh wait a sec, you mean only certain parts of the Constitution should be protected?

 

Discrimination is discrimination no matter how you choose to rationalize it.

 

Discrimination is a part of life, yes, because its the extension of prejudice.

Our laws define things specifically because that is how laws must work, vagueness leads to subjectivity which leads to injustice - we cant have that.

But the belief that creates those laws isn't specific to any codified factor.

Its a belief that says people shouldn't be allowed to use hate as justification for treating each other differently.

To suggest that it is somehow ok to discriminate against someone because there isn't a law forbidding it is an ignorant misunderstanding of the very reason why the laws that do forbid types of discrimination exist.

Firearms ownership is a right and by allowing bigots to oppress people that choose to exercise that right we put all rights in danger.

Leftists might think themselves to be the champions of morality as they crusade against what is mostly imagined and/or manufactured transgressions, but in the end they are just the other side of the same prejudicial coin.