Deutsche Bank Staff Saw Suspicious Activity in Trump and Kushner Accounts

I have no idea what you’re referring to, I’m talking about fraudulent claims of values of property to get a loan. Aka bank fraud. That’s not within Muellers scope.

 

Now you just made me laugh. Trump filed a financial statement prior to running for office.

If you can find something that he didn't list, you will be the first of the many real investigators who have already been looking for over two years.

Bank loan book value transfers don't re-evaluate the value of any asset unless the asset has been partially divested. There is nothing to see that hasn't already been looked at by Mueller.

Listening Rachel Maddow might be encouraging, but her BS won't add fertilizer to the continuing scam.

 

Overvaluing property in nothing new. In the US, I believe it is only illegal when dealing with Federal agencies (i.e. FHA, etc). Considering as how Deutsche Bank is a German company, I would assume it falls under German law.

In any case, it would seem to me that ANY lending agency would require an appraisal to protect their interest. If that appraisal is proven to be fraudulent at the owner's orders, then I would agree that fraud is committed and should be investigated. Overvaluing property in itself, for the purposes of establishing net worth, is not necessarily illegal. It depends on the method and the significance.

I am not up on Cohen's claims or what proof he may have. Given Cohen's record, I would be skeptical of any verbal claims he makes and expect documentation in order to take him seriously.

 

He lied to the bank or to us about the value of a property.

 

Deutsche Bank was not the original lender. They only carried part of the debt in an asset swap that was properly reported to the EU.

The assessed value of any asset is rarely accurate as compared to the actual liquidation transaction amount. It could be higher or lower depending on the market and the willingness of the buyer to pay a premium price.

The ONLY way that this whole topic would have any significance whatsoever is if Trump were to have listed an asset that he doesn't actually own or that he doesn't have a vested interest in.

 

So another entirely unsourced NYT story. How shocking.

 

Yes and he provided docs, so let congress see if he lied. They’ve got to corroborate his claims.

 

Ah another who didn’t even bother to read it lol

Ms. McFadden, a longtime anti-money laundering specialist in Deutsche Bank’s Jacksonville office, said she had reviewed the transactions and found that money had moved from Kushner Companies to Russian individuals. She concluded that the transactions should be reported to the government — in part because federal regulators had ordered Deutsche Bank, which had been caught laundering billions of dollars for Russians, to toughen its scrutiny of potentially illegal transactions.

 

I read the part posted and didnt see a single source.

 

If he actually owned the asset, there was no bank fraud involved. Banks don't need to substantiate actual value of residual assets to underwrite a loan.

 

The government knows about ALL transfers over 10K originating in the US.

Now you should take a close look at Obama's off shore accounts.

 

Ms. McFadden, a longtime anti-money laundering specialist in Deutsche Bank’s Jacksonville office, said she had reviewed the transactions and found that money had moved from Kushner Companies to Russian individuals. She concluded that the transactions should be reported to the government — in part because federal regulators had ordered Deutsche Bank, which had been caught laundering billions of dollars for Russians, to toughen its scrutiny of potentially illegal transactions.

 

It’s still illegal to lie to a bank to get a loan. Just ask Manafort! Lol

 

Over valuing property is not necessarily a "lie". Value of real estate is subjective in most cases. If that property was used as collateral, a bank would be foolish to not get an appraisal based on current market values. If it was used to determine net worth....well....those are pretty much always consider to be inflated when evaluating non-liquid assets.

 

What are the names of the employees?

 

Having a good chance of getting caught doesn’t make it legal lol

 

Scroll up, or try clicking the link for a change lol

 

Just overvaluing property in itself does not make it illegal

 

It’s bank fraud! Lol

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-deutsche-bank-fraud-investigation-1370805?amp=1

 

But wait, didn't Rachael Mancow actually do an hour show on one of Trump's tax returns that she secretly borrowed from the NYT?

 

I'm not saying he did not....and I am not saying he did. However, over-valuing property in itself is not necessarily illegal. It matters as to how it was presented or used. Just because some Democrat Representative from California says it COULD BE bank fraud, that does not mean that it is bank fraud.

 

Then he lied on his financial disclosures. Shouldnt we find out which?

 

A few things.

Personal knowledge of generated reporting workflow approval in large organizations. I've been the novice who obsesses on flags I didn't fully understand, the mid-range tech who provisions the generation of flags for the novice to work from, and the supervisor course correcting the entire thing. So right off the bat I'm not inclined to believe a lone cruncher has cracked some huge case because I suspected (and the article eventually confirms) that all this person did was respond to an automatically generated flag.

The origin of the claim; this mystery employee. This employee, nor the articles author, has proof of any kind. This employee insists others knew but we don't hear from or of them. This employee claims she was previously fired and therefore was in the process of suing her employer at the time of making her claims. We don't know if she actually worked on the Trump/Kushner finances (or for the bank at all). The bank itself denies that any employee was fired or reassigned over any matter regarding client activity flagging, as does it deny the of the claim itself.

Then there's the biased, fake news article itself. Lets be honest here, this would not be the first time that the President's detractors have used fabricated fake news articles as the basis for launching investigations. The planting of false information into news happened multiple times in the Steele dossier saga. So I look to how the NYTimes present this claim. Is it from a place of objective speculation where true journalists work from? No, they flat out state -without proof of ANY KIND- that the Deutsche Bank intentionally blocked the reporting of so called money laundering involving Trump/Kushner. Problem is that a) they have NO PROOF that the bank blocked anything, b) they have NO PROOF that the thing which was supposedly blocked was money laundering related, and c) they have NO PROOF that the supposed reporting of the supposed money laundering was linked to accounts supposedly owned by Trump/Kushner. Anti-Trump media appears to be doing exactly what it has been doing for the last 2+ years: using the weakest of unsubstantiated claims to manufactured the wildest of unproven accusations.

I'm not sold.

 

Is this the next LW delusion, not that the collusion fairy tale collapsed?

 

Interesting that she should make herself unhirable over transactions she couldnt prove were illegal.