The would be gun grabbers position all shot to hell

So you have no proof. Got it. Not that I'm surprised as this is your M.O. You never back up any of your claims

 

Well I claim the ocean exists too.

 

You don't have to convince me you're wrong about your claim regarding Maduro.

 

Heres an idea: let a few of the big metro areas secede from the union. That would move the US to near the lowest in the world.

 

Delete

 

Constitutional CCW would stop the mass slaughter taking place in our DP ruled urban hell holes.

More Guns = Less Crime

 

When 10 year olds are manufacturing AK-47s you know the genie is indeed out of the bottle.

Gun control schemes are all aimed at disarming the innocent.

 

I call BS on that.
Many instances of strategies outlined by the Dems to disarm American citizens have been previously posted from Pete Shields strategy outlined in 1976 in the New Yorker to Hillary campaign staff caught on hidden video explaining the need for deception and the ultimate goals. Many available on You Tube.
The strategy for deception was explained not long ago by another Dem caught on hidden camera...
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/15/project-veritas-video-claire-mccaskill-hides-gun-c/
So any GCA saying it’s a red herring, is naturally viewed as an agent of deception.

 

Aren't a good number of gun murders in urban cities gang related? Which would mean the person being killed very likely was also armed?
How many gun murders in urban cities involve totally innocent unarmed citizens?
I think CCW could stop SOME of the murders taking place in urban cities.

 

If I'm wrong why bother talking to me?

 

Many innocent bystanders are shot and killed in our urban hell holes.

When gangsters know that armed citizens are very likely to gun them down if they pull a gun they will stop shooting people in public.

Gun fights are rare in Darra because even terrorists and other violent criminals try to avoid receiving return fire.

 

What does one have to do with the other?

 

You want to talk about red herrings? You? Mr. accuses me of saying its a small price to pay for NRA profit? Spare me.

Gun laws have the effect of disarming the population no matter their intent. They are not acceptable


https://www.ammoland.com/2019/05/gu...WqqjKKwnba1BdushzZ6H9huk6JyX0_g#axzz5oeoZIUKs

 

The discussion is pointless. Why continue? What do you get out of it?

 

How many innocent bystanders are shot and killed in urban cities?
I don’t agree gangsters will stop shooting people in public if there are more armed citizens. Will the shootings be reduced? Absolutely. Stop? No way. Too much evidence suggests otherwise.

 

Highlighting you can’t back up what you claim

 

But how does that benefit you?

 

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/05/gu...WqqjKKwnba1BdushzZ6H9huk6JyX0_g#axzz5oeoZIUKs

Try this link

 

Bystanders killed in our urban hell holes frequently make the news. Haven't you noticed? I think it is common - do you think I am wrong about that?

Armed criminals try to avoid "return fire" - even in Darra.

“Remarkably, there is very little gun crime. People rarely draw a gun in anger here, because the target almost surely would ***return fire***. ‘The keeping of arms doesn't mean killing people, said Arif Mohammad, 27, a local gun dealer, as he sipped sweet tea in a little room behind his shop. ‘The tribe has huge amounts of guns and ammunition, but we live in peace and harmony.’”
WASHINGTON POST, Kevin Sullivan, “Pakistanis Arming the World's Guerrillas,”, 7/9/98, p A01.
(*** mine)
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1998-07-24-9807230530-story.html

 

If it’s that common you should be able to tell me how many

 

I tend to research issues where the facts are contested.
Would you like me to search for some statics on innocents injured or killed during gang fights?

 

That would be nice, thanks. It’s always better to have real numbers instead of saying it’s “many” or “common”.

 

My opinion was based on the frequent news accounts of innocents killed by gang violence.





"Eric Adorno was mistaken for a gang member because he wore a red football jersey.

Lacy Ferguson was shot to death after she and her boyfriend bought a pack of cigarettes.

Josue Huerta was winning his battle with cancer but lost his life to gang violence.

Ernestina "Tina" Tizoc was sitting at a picnic table when her maroon blouse caught the eye of neighborhood boys who favor blue.

And Manuel Rayas was shot, sniper-style, as he stood on the lawn at a birthday party while children jumped in an inflatable bounce house nearby."
THE MODESTO BEE, In The Line Of Fire: Gang members killing innocent people, BY SUSAN HERENDEEN, SEPTEMBER 19, 2007 12:00 AM, UPDATED OCTOBER 20, 2014.
https://www.modbee.com/news/local/article3092979.html

Most of the victims of gang violence are other gangsters. Those stats are easy to find. The numbers for the collateral casualties did not pop up immediately, but I will eventually find them. In the age of informatics the numbers are always collected and available somewhere.

 

Yes we can certainly tell that by the fact that Americans no longer have any guns.

 

Are Americans disarmed? Has the Democratic party called for disarming America? Are Americans disarmed. All just nonsense promulgated to sell more guns and boost NRA membership.