ICE agents arrest 680 undocumented workers in Mississippi

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More on the raid here...
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    BTW you avoided my questions

    Now are you in favor of sanctuary cities and at the same time want people who knowingly hire the illegals jailed? If so can you resolve the inherent conflict?
     
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    How unconvincing
     
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    Why was this outrage of illegals working here allowed to go on for so long?? If Trump really was concerned about the illegal problem why was this not his priory by the 2nd or third month as he took over the throne!
     
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    no it's not. The reason they're coming over is to mooch off our social programs.

    The reason you target employers and not administrators of social programs it's because of partisan politics.

    we have a border control we have INS, we have ICE. Why don't we leave the police work up to them?

    Oh wait I know it's because you don't really want to enforce the laws.

    No it's as if I expect the government to do the job we pay them to do.

    People can be fined for hiring illegals who do you think's not fining them?

    It's like you don't know the first thing about what's going on.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    no **** Sherlock. If you learn how to read you will see where I said why not do all these other things.

    "Duh umm because duh it's umm uh not umm illegal."

    Again no **** Sherlock.

    The question again was why not.


    I don't mind at all the government fining people that hire illegals but that won't stop them from coming here.

    Many of them come here to mooch off our social programs.

    You have to do more. You have to control the border you have to enforce immigration laws when an illegal alien enters the system. You have to forbid them from using social programs.

    All of those things combined will work much better it might even encourage them to come back legally and even become American citizens.
     
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    I certainly hope you are against sanctuary cities and would support measures to sanction cities that do. There is a criminal investigation, ICE is determining first if and how many are illegal, second did the company know, did they have false identifications that worked or who ever was making the hiring decision knew they were illegal and still hired them. If so who made that decision and who else may be culpable. People can go to jail.

    And we're going to have to raid the others else the US Government is interfering in competition.
    IF there are crimes and it looks likely then put these managers on probation for a year and announce a moratorium on shut raids for a year. IOW business get your houses in order. The goal should be to put all those businesses out of business which will do even more harm to these depressed areas. AND GET ON WITH IMMIGRATION REFORM!!!! And WELFARE REFORM. These jobs will be becoming available if your able bodied then you get one. A little Gingrich/Kasich old fashion welfare reform.
     
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    Nah,,most work..........Hard...Something lazy white people won't do........Mooch?...Hardly....Please precede with your next fallacy
     
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    600 openings ready now....Apparently long lines of Aryan Pure White men and woman have stepped up to fill the gap...Ready and able....Ah who am I kidding.....None of them will do the work....They'll just have to hire the next batch of "immigrants"
     
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    for lower than minimum wage, something that's illegal for citizens to do.

    Yet isn't it a policy of the left to raise minimum wage so to make it illegal for citizens to have more jobs?



    So do you know the percentage of illegal aliens that receive social benefits?
     
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    Some not many.....Illegals are certainly being exploited...But most work .....Very Hard...Go outside and drive to a construction site.....See for yourself
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    They CAN'T FILL JOBS. And that is from unskilled as in a poultry plant up to the auto plants. I call on all of them. It's too easy not to work even when you can. And the visa workers are better workers. I've have had maintenance managers tell me that out right. The LEGAL visa and immigrant workers are there every day on time willing to learn any job and do and do it right and give a good days work. You know what we are supposed to do in our jobs. The low skilled locals, don't want to work, complain, cause problems and then just stop showing up. It's improving as wages are going up which is typical.

    I'm all for LEGAL immigration for immigrants who bring skills and are able to support themselves and extend the visa time limits so they have to return, they make good members of society for 5 years then a green card, five more then apply for citizenship. We control that on an as needed basis, if we don't need farm workers we don't let that skill in but if we need people who can repair electrical panels welcome to America. A country has a right to control it's borders and who can immigrate into it.
     
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    Sorry I'm not going down the Nazi rabbit hole.
     
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    Well I'm going to agree with you on this...Still it is obvious America needs the workers....
     
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    Point taken.........A poor choice of words on my part
     
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    For less than minimum wage. These aren't jobs Americans won't do these are jobs that it is illegal for Americans to do for a competitive wage.

    And why is this because of minimum wage increases.
     
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    Where is that?
     
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    Thus meaning states cannot decide for themselves that they will not comply with federal-level laws pertaining to immigration, by declaring themselves to be sanctuaries to illegal aliens.
     
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    I have to agree, the odds of them not knowing is low.
     
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    Understood, but they certainly knew.
     
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    Sorry I must have hit the post button.
     
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    Then perhaps the right should quit demonizing these workers as "stealing jobs" willing to work for "lower wages." That kind of rhetoric just don't hunt when, like you say, there are citizens who AREN'T WILLING TO WORK.
     
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    It goes hand in hand. And yeah it's the person getting their monthly welfare check looking out into that cabbage field saying "Look how they stole my job". I gave you my solutions, what's your?
     
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    OK are you in favor of sanctuary cities and at the same time want people who knowingly hire the illegals jailed? If so can you resolve the inherent conflict?
     
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    Do you want him to send them back and lock the gates, or not?
     

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