Trump Allies Target Journalists Over Coverage Deemed Hostile to White House

They're Trump's rules because he's using them. The way he uses them merits a response.

 

Some of those caught have been convicted of serious crimes.

 

What WAY did he use them? Activist Acosta INTERRUPTED another journalist!

 

Alright, well forget about the motive behind sanctuary cities then, do you agree that Democrats see dreamers as part of their future voting base?

 

I'm pretty much in agreement with this.Why don't you get into politics? We need more Democrats like you.

The real question, and it's one that I don't know enough (yet) to have an opinion on, is assimilation.

By which I do not mean re the discussion in another thread, becoming just like some average of Boston Irish and New York Jewish etc ... but having a deep loyalty to this country as it is and being happy to work 'within the system' instead of outside it as criminals. And the problem here is not the immigrant generation, who are usually all too happy to have escaped their native country, but the next generation, who are born here but generally find themselves still close to the bottom (so far as Hispanics are concerned).

 

You are right about playing the patriotism card. One wrinkle is that the protests against both Vietnam and Iraq had a prominent component, in their leaderships, of people who genuinely were unpatriotic. For instance the Iraq protests were largely organized under the leadership of two organizatons, Not In Our Name, and A.N.S.W.E.R. The first was set up by the Revolutionary Communist Party, a Stalinist cult who specialize in flag-burning, the second by the Leninist Workers World Party. Just as in the 1930s, liberals found themselves being led, usually without knowing it, by people who were anything but liberal. (Imagine if conservatives turned out in large numbers to take part in demonstrations organized by the KKK and the American Nazi Party! We would NEVER hear the end of it.)

I don't know what liberals should do in those situations, by the way. You could argue -- and I would agree that the argument has merit -- that the Stalinists and the Leninists were just doing your work, that is, good work. (When I was a Red, it's what we joked about the inevitable police informers in our ranks. At least they paid dues and had to get out and sell our newspaper at factory gates.) The CPUSA and other communist groups did actually play a big role in organizing trade unions and fighting racial oppression in the 1930s. But it does make you vulnerable -- as we saw in spades during the McCarthy era -- to charges from the Right about disloyalty.

As for Trump trashing minorities, you far overstate the case. He's forever being photographed with various minorities, but ... his PR team are inept and of course the MSM are not about to give publicity to things like this. What he doesn't do is to buy into the Leftist manta that Black problems are all due to white racism, but then no one really believes this anyway.

 

Hillary got her votes from states with the largest number of illegal immigrants.

 

Well, at least they didn't throw them in jail like the Democrat Wilson did. Or throw those of certain nationalities into camps like the Democrat FDR did. What did they do to patriotism?

 

But common sense and logic established it.
What is unsupportable is that supporting sanctuary cities is based on some altruism.

 

A wall is an effective physical barrier in urban areas

And there is no reason we cant have better e-verify

The problem is thst liberals will not deport the illegals even when you catch them if they have a sad story to tell

 

Trump got his extra votes from white nationalists

 

What is a white nationalist?

 

people like those chanting "blood and soil, jews will not replace us" which Trump said some were "very fine people"

 

You should try to make your argument without lying

Nazis dislike Jews

Even, along with muslims and atheists, hate Jews

but conservatives who want to maintain and protect white Christain European culture in America do not hate Jews

In fact Christians are the strongest supporters of God’s chosen people

 

They did. You lost...

 

Lie.

 

Fair opinion, care to say why so I can do better in future?

 

Many Leftists are now being told to fear "White Nationalists", and they are afraid, yet are skimpy on details. Do you know their names? Who are these people? Did they also vote for Obama?

 

They have no idea. It's just the latest bogeyman they've been told to fear.

Leftists must always manufacture an enemy in order to convince the weaker minds that only they can solve the problem they created. It's BS but has worked for centuries, Lenin being the modern inspiration for much of the lies and propaganda the Left still feeds on today. While they were 'Useful Idiots' to Lenin and his 'revolution' they are a danger to peace and democracy wherever they gather.

 

Sadly Our Dear Leader D The First has at times acted like a useful idiot. Is DearvLeader a leftist?

 

That makes no sense. Try not to be too clever and go for a thoughtful post instead. Otherwise you're just taking up space.

 

Not being clever I just see too many threads here where the poster is expressing nonsense generalized accusations against either the left or or the right. To run the politics of divide and concquer polititions from the left or the right create a boogeyman out of the opposite or opposing ideology or political party. Hitler did that with the Jews. The Southern segregationists did that with civil rights movement and voter registration workers. Southerners accused "Northern liberals and Jews " of stirring up " our Negroes " into wanting to vote and integrate schools. Southners made Northerners into "enemies. "

 

Yes, the divisions in America are becoming ever more serious and, I believe, began with the Left. It took on greater importance during the Sixties and Seventies when the Cultural Wars began, Black against White, Women against Men, Pro and Anti Abortion, and so on.

Then we had an internal war against the US military, exemplified on colleges campuses, and the police being called "Pigs" , later reduced to "Fry 'em Like Bacon" and more recently, actually deliberately murdering them. As a result Blacks Americans are suffering and dying because police are discouraged from even getting involved in these areas for fear of being called "Racist", an overused word that immediately kills any thoughtful dialogue. This has all come from the Left and any counterargument is called 'Extreme Right Wing' or. more recently,'White Nationalism'. Examples of this are everywhere.

 

Maybe, maybe even probably.

 

Yes, we can blame the left, progressives, or liberals because that triad of thinking is for change. Those opposed to change or " conservatives" and are trying to conserve what is and the way it is or was.

The Women's rights movement caused a logical reaction mostly by men because the woman's libbers were threatening our way of life. Woman wanted it all - career, children, equal pay, equal climb up the corporate ladder even though they got time off to have children. They then demanded day care and if they could get that "free" they wanted it more.
Men and conservative women on the right were opposed to more rights forvwoman. It began to look like woman where not just getting equal treatment but it looked like they were getting more than us guys. Men had to try and conserve our fights.

Blacks wanted what everyone else did. To varying degrees until the Civil rights acts Blacks did not have the same opportunities as Whites. I am not talking about individual Blacks because some did get to be middle class. Yet in the South that guy Jim he was not prone to allow equal opportunity. So the segregations who tried to keep things as they were became the face of the right and conservatism and steadily they became Republicans. Why? The Republican Party. was way more conservative so the White Southeners found a home where they thought their old way of life could be preserved.


The riots by Blacks in the sixties were because of economic reasons in that Blacks did not believe that they were being given a fair chance to achieve the American dream. We can debate that in a separate thread.
In the asouth Blacks in the South were kept down and besides Jim Crow laws the KKK was used to keep Blacks in check. Jim Crow was to preserve the old.

The KKK were the right wing the calvary of the conservative forces in that the KKK was used to conserve White power and Southern White way of life.

Police became the " bad guys" because the police were charged with keeping the pace keping the status quoa.

Groups like the Black Panthers ( original late middle 1960's to 1970's ) set the tone for Blacks to kill police.

As an aside the calling of cops pigs was done by the anti war movement and Blacks so it is not clear which group started it. The more militant Black movement Took on the name calling against cops.

The anti abortion movement was obviously born as the reaction to women's right to abortion. The anti group was trying and still is going it wanted to not just conserve but to go back to the days of no abortion .

White Nationalists are right wing in that they pine fir the days of old when men were bold and women and Blacks just did what they were told.

So yes, the left bring or tries to bring chance, it rocks the boat.