Why Are You Against Same Sex Marriage?

Yes. Let them have all the rights of marriage, just dont pervert the name.

 

I don't believe that it does pervert the name. Marriage (in the true sense) is way too strong to be perverted by any law of any land.

 

Just call it a civil union. I object to nothing but calling both, by the same name. NOT equal rights for both.

 

How does it "pervert" the name?

 

"Marriage" is a union between a man and a women, husband and wife. Been that way for centuries on end, until the SJW showed up on the scene.

 

Yeah, but what are the consequences of it being changed?

 

This is the same case as saying the pre-born child is now defined by law as something unworthy of life worth protecting. The laws are wrong, we call that out, and they should be changed.

 

Yes it is. That's how the legal definition changed in the first place.

Correct, it has been.

I'm not pretending anything.

 

It perverts the name. A homosexual union is not identical to a heterosexual union. To include homosexual unions into the word "marriage" perverts the word marriage, which was exclusive to heterosexual unions.

Yet it has been.

 

Well, people now believe that men can also have periods, get pregnant, and have children... They believe that men and women are identical (ie, the whole "gender fluidity" nonsense)...

Before, there were clear distinctions between "man" and "woman", who each served a different purpose and perfectly complimented one another.

 

because we aren't discussing the 1500's. We are discussing the legal definition of marriage in the US. Religious definitions are entirely irrelevant.

 

that's unconstitutional, which is why same sex couples get married, identically to opposite sex couples.

 

opposite sex marriages are identical to same sex marriages. This is reality.

 

No, it is a denial of Logic, a denial of the Proof of Identity.

 

It's simply legal fact. Opposite sex couples and same sex couples are identically married. You can disagree that they should be married all you want, but that doesn't change reality. Same sex couples can and do marry. They are identically married.

 

I'm sure you can elaborate for us, try to be specific as I am not a Constitutional scholar on gay "marriage".

 

Sure. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

as for your suggestion of a separate but equal institution................https://www.uscourts.gov/educationa.../history-brown-v-board-education-re-enactment

 

So you believe that @yabberefugee and @gfm7175 are discussing the LEGAL definition of marriage? Because you should know, that they very much are NOT!

 

"Before" WHAT? Before same sex marriage was passed in 2015? Surely you can't be serious! The whole "gender fluidity" nonsense was going on WAY before that! You're trying to say that same sex marriage is WAY more significant than it actually is. Same sex marriage is NOT the villain here.

 

Then you don't hold as high a regard for marriage as me. You obviously think of it as weak enough to be affected by a law. I think that it's stronger than that.

 

You referred to my "efforts to redefine the term 'marriage.'" When I said that "it's not my or anyone else's effort",
I meant that it's not anyone's EFFORT, but rather something the law has DONE, which you agree with, given that you said:

 

Did I say that because same sex marriage is law, that I now believe that it is the true definition of marriage?

 

What they are discussing is meaningless. Marriage in the US is a legal institution. Same sex couples can and do marry. Their marriage is identical to opposite sex marriage.

 

Yes and it is also a RELIGIOUS institution! Didn't you know that?

 

Marriage in the US is a legal institution. What any religion has to say on the matter is completely irrelevant.