Gov. Cuomo to sign order allowing businesses to deny service to patrons who refuse to wear masks

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Thankfully as you would not want many to emulate the narcissistic petulant man child in the White House
    . Sadly though a great many are emulating him
     
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    Then why close all the beaches?
     
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    Because we shut down hard and fast it is not quite the issue here

    You are more likely to be asked to wear shoes
     
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    according to the separation of church and state, this will be challenged in the Supreme Court of America on the grounds of religious oppression

    new york can temporarily enforce sharia law on its businesses because it is a communist state like australia.
     
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    Since when was wearing a mask part of a religion?

    Tell me, if you were to be asked to wear a mask before vistitng a sick relative would you?
     
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    there was no medical reason to wear a mask outside of a hospital, this is unprecedented due to communist science.

    sharia law is one of the religions approved by communism.
     
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    Many Trumpers seem to think that. "Since Trump isn't wearing one I don't have to either"

    They're a good deal better than nothing. They don't cost much more and they're much more effective. This is supposedly the most advanced country in the world and we can't even provide good quality surgical masks when tens of thousands of lives are at stake?
     
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    Bull **** of the purest ray serene in both cases. Preventing the transmission of a deadly and highly contagious disease is certainly a medical reason anywhere and anytime and no religion is approved of by communism. Communism would be proud of your use of its propagandist tactics btw.
     
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    Emulating his mask wearing deficiencies? I think there is a lot of confusion on that matter. I know a lot of people who don’t wear masks all over the country. None of them base their decision on Trump’s behavior in any way. Many of them think Trump is a clown. Many others are apolitical to a fault. They don’t know Trump doesn’t wear a mask all over creation and wouldn’t care if they were told. I find it odd so many think it has anything to do with the President.
     
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    Private businesses have asked patrons to wear shoes for a hundred years for health and safety reasons, it's completely asinine to claim it's "Communism" to have a safety dress code in a business.
     
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    I know some Trumpers that don’t wear masks. And a lot of Republicans, independents, and apolitical folks. Hell, lifelong Democrats don’t wear masks around here. None of them do so because Trump doesn’t.

    Well, like I said, it depends. Vented are useless for protecting others. They weren’t made for that. Also, the jury is still out on aerosol spread. If people put too much faith in an N95 and don’t social distance or spend a lot of time indoors with other people even social distancing, aerosol spread could be a big factor. They are a tool, not a magical talisman.

    I just did a quick search and looks like surgical type masks are for sale all over. Even KN95 and some actual N95 as well.

    We all could have been prepared for this. You could have had a couple hundred n95s set aside. If many people had done so, there wouldn’t be a shortage now affecting you and healthcare providers. Something to think about.
     
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    communists exaggerated the deadly force to further a political agenda

    a face mask was only pragmatic in countries with sharia law, America has separation of church and state. communists are atheist, but support authoritative religions that serve their interests.
     
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    Yes and his narcissistic behaviour AND his blind loyalty to TWONKERISH ideas (I,e, use of HCQ) AND his trolling AND...........
     
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    Well THAT is a piece of worthless internet bullcrap
     
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    The hospital guidelines here state that COVID 19 is to be considered droplet unless aerosol generating procedures (I.e. intubation) are performed

    Having said that we are taking higher level precautions including PAPR
     
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    If you want to forego a mask please be my guest but will you be expecting healthcare staff who must not only wear a mask but stinking hot PPE and a visor to treat you?
     
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    It’s going to be difficult to ever completely understand aerosol vs. droplet vs. surface contamination spread. They are so interconnected, droplet to aerosol is a continuous spectrum of droplet size, and infection can’t be observed in real time. It’s often hard to determine how individuals were infected. I suspect many infections are a combination of the three.

    What’s your opinion on aerosol virus rna being recovered in rooms where PPE is removed? I’ve read a couple of reports on that. That would be concerning to me if I was in that line of work. I’ve heard recommendations of disinfecting before removal, is that happening that you know of?

    Well that is certainly going to make things more comfortable for the user. Job performance will surely be enhanced with more comfort. I can’t imagine trying to work long hours in a mask. I typically wear a mask a few hours a year for a couple dusty jobs that are unavoidable and that’s enough for me. All day everyday? Nope.

    Are PAPR units readily available?
     
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    Tell the grieving families of Covid dead how exaggerated the deadliness of that disease is

    With all due respect, you're getting downright silly. How does Sharia law affect the practicality of face masks?
     
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    They're only not of much use if you open the vent, which seems a little self-defeating. The filters let you breathe ok if you keep them clean.

    They take a while to get and they're not even close to cheap

    I'm going to set some aside. I used to have faith in the government to do that kind of thing but that was before I saw a cadre of pure crooks foist a failed reality-show host on us to help handle our large national emergencies
     
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    Sorry my point flew over your head. I was saying that store owners and partons each have a choice.
     
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    I doubt there is much of a DIY culture in the concentrated city living, where people expect the super to fix it, so they might not have had any old masks or respirators.

    When the 3 foot wide section for masks went empty at our Home Depot, when we had victims in the very low double digits, where more people live in homes instead of apartment buildings, I bet their section for masks at New York city Home Depots probably wasn't any bigger even though the population density is higher.

    So certainly a designer mask, for upscale people, should fly off shelves (if they have those in a trendy shop), but way too late to stop the initial spread especially in the black...communities.

    Then there is the culture, city people congregate more, more public transport. They were doomed from the start.

    1,564 miles away: Dunlawton bridge protest, even if they have masks, most don't know how to wear them: https://www.news-journalonline.com/...-protest-death-of-george-floyd-in-minneapolis

    That is a cultural thing.
     
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    Unlike the US Constitution, State constitutions sometimes have disclaimers about lasciviousness..., so the desire to shove a sexy virus down someone's throat is not protected.

    Example, Florida: "SECTION 3. Religious freedom.—There shall be no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting or penalizing the free exercise thereof. Religious freedom shall not justify practices inconsistent with public morals, peace or safety. No revenue of the state or any political subdivision or agency thereof shall ever be taken from the public treasury directly or indirectly in aid of any church, sect, or religious denomination or in aid of any sectarian institution."
     
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    I know an older lady that simply was having a hard time breathing before, the mask that would protect her just makes it worse. Young people have no freaking excuse. Seriously, kind a makes me mad that young people, especially Republican "Men," are such squat to leaks they can't suffer a little for others.
     
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    and there you go, people without shoes don't go inside. It's no different than requiring everyone to wear a tux, or be naked, to go inside.

    I won't mask up to spend my dollars. You are welcome to mask up all that you want
     

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