Why do blacks vote for democrats over 90% of the time?

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    Umm show proof that Russia didnt interfere they most certainly did with a misinformation campaign
    Cant forget they were the ones who backed and got hillarys emails to give to Wikileaks that trump loves so much.
    So where is your proof or are you just using your furers lies. That is all that orange turd does is lie.
     
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    Ppl like that guy think trump tells the truth when he said that they dont and that is was really Ukraine doing it for Hillary. Complete delusion...
     
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    He didn’t do it because he believed in civil rights or helping Blacks. He knew if he didn’t, then the next Republican president would and they would get the credit. Don’t make him out to be a hero.
     
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    That's the problem with many like yourself, they believe someone must invest in them to succeed when real power comes from those that invest in themselves and strive to succeed on their own merit..
     
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    WOW you are seriously behind the curve on this subject, and yes the "southern conservatives" really put you in a very dim light ;)
     
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    Not having one and intentionally not having one to make a point are different things.
    Don’t BLM and ISIS have flags that they wave proudly?
     
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    Why would someone vote for:

    a party that enslaved them

    a party that voted against the 14th Amendment freeing them

    a party that voted against the 15th Amendment making them citizens

    a party that began the KKK to intimidate and terrorize them

    a party that passed the Jim Crow laws—-separate and unequal

    a party that voted down civil rights laws introduced by Republicans for 100 years

    a party that constantly plays the race card for votes

    a party that wants to keep them in bad schools instead of having school choice

    a party that gave out welfare and food stamps instead of job training so they could support themselves so they would be beholden to the Democrats


    just off the top of my head
     
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    The childish compulsion to deflect Fake Don's turpitude demands he contrive some version of whatever is exposed regarding him, and insist that it was somebody else who did it.

    [​IMG]
    "Stop lying and saying the dog did it!
    We don't have a dog!"



     
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    That's not true exactly. Most single white women vote for Democrats. Most Married white woman vote GOP.
     
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    I think if you want an accurate answer you should go ask black voters. I get the feeling the any answers you get here will be a bunch of white people white-splaining why black people should vote one way or the other based on their own world view. My guess based on the post and polls on PF that the percentage of black people that will view or answer your post is going to be small.

    If you don't know a lot of black democratic voters in RL you can try posting your question on reddit. Probably get more insight there.
     
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    Because that's either not true or over 50 years ago, simple.
     
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    If that's so, then why did the lives of blacks improve to peak levels during the first 2 years of the Trump administration? Socialism degrades everyone, and the more one sector depends upon socialism, the more degraded that sector becomes.
     
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    It's all true, and it's been true for a lot longer than 50 years.
     
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    Your biggest problem is not policy. No reason sufficient number of blacks might take a turn towards conservative economics, foreign policy etc. At least enough to be remotely competitive and that these black conservatives could seed more in a second generation. No reason why young blacks might find some appeal in social religious conservativism considering a decent population of black Baptists and muslims. but every four years republicans have a national primary and every four years a couple racial insensitive yahoos work in that primary to appeal to the same voters that swarmed out to vote for Trump and the rest are scared to take on the white nationalist strain in the party base. For all the routine talk about broadening the party base, its all crushed into sawdust because of racially insensitive rhetoric in presidential years reminds black voters that Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond, Pat Buchanan history was not all that far away.

    I swear if you could just shut up some of those republicans seeking to turn racial code like 'welfare queen' into a clarion call for bigot votes, you'd get somewhere.
     
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    What Republican office holders are going around using the term welfare queen?

    And more to the point, why do you associate that term with blacks?
     
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    It goes back to the great depression. It wasn't only blacks that began voting Democratic, whites also, the whole span of the electorate. FDR offered hope, the Republicans none. Where white began to move away from the Democratic Party mainly because of Eisenhower in the 1950's, blacks remained loyal. Still 39% of blacks did vote for IKE in 1956 and 32% for Nixon in 1960.

    Then in 1964, the Democrats passed the Civil Rights bill. The GOP candidate voted against it and Goldwater received 6% of the black vote. The Democrats followed that up with the Voting Rights bill. No Republican candidate has received higher than 15% of the black vote since 1964. Nixon in 1968 and Ford in 1976 accomplished that. The Republican candidate in 2000 8%, 2004 11%, 2008 4%, 2012 6% and in 2016 8%.

    1932 and 1964 are the watershed years. I would add 1948 the year Truman desegregated the military. There you have, the great depression, the new deal, desegregation of the military, the civil rights and voting rights acts, blacks have been loyal to the democratic party ever since.
     
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    So you take that $15 an hour job and do a GOOD job and show your employer you are worth more than that, even increase your education in the process, and take on more responsibility and earn more money. Why do you think it is supposed to be automatic, it just supposed to happen and if it doesn't then it the government that is supposed to make it up to you? When I first entered the real workplace my first job I hired in a minimum wage, $2.00/hour. I earned that for 90 days and got my raise. I never earned minimum wage again in my life. I entered the workplace at because it was my first job. I was a risk, I knew that. I proved I was a good worker. And now about to announce my retirement and will have a nice little retirement income coming in. It's not rocket science.
     
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    Ahhhhh nope, it took about 30 years for all the segregationist Democrats to die out or otherwise leave office being replaced by the younger generation conservatives who stood against segregation and support the CRA and VRA the Democrats had fought tooth and nail to prevent from being enacted.
     
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    1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_queen, 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Taylor
    They didn't this election cycle. Ronald Reagan did . I did not create or invent this trope of the welfare cheat, which could have easily been male or white instead.

    "Gender and racial stereotypes[edit]
    Political scientist Franklin Gilliam has argued that the welfare queen stereotype has roots in both race and gender:

    While poor women of all races get blamed for their impoverished condition, African-American women commit the most egregious violations of American values. This story line taps into stereotypes about both women (uncontrolled sexuality) and African-Americans (laziness).[2]

    The media's image of poverty shifted from focusing on the plight of white Appalachian farmers and on the factory closings in the 1960s to a more racially divisive and negative image of poor blacks in urban areas. All of this, according to political scientist Martin Gilens, led to the American public dramatically overestimating the percentage of African-Americans in poverty.[13] By 1973, in magazine pictures depicting welfare recipients, 75% featured African Americans even though African Americans made up only 35% of welfare recipients and only 12.8% of the US population.[13] In 2016, African Americans made up 39.6% of welfare recipients, and, in 2015, African Americans made up 13.3% of the United States population.[citation needed] Van Doorn states that the media repeatedly shows a relationship between lazy, black, and poor suggesting why some Americans are opposed to welfare programs.[14][15]


    From the 1970s onward, women became the predominant face of poverty.[2][5] In a 1999 study by Franklin Gilliam that examined people's attitudes on race, gender, and the media, an eleven-minute news clip featuring one of two stories on welfare was shown to two groups of participants. Each story on welfare had a different recipient—one was a white woman and the other was a black woman. The results showed that people were extremely accurate in their recall of the race and gender of the black female welfare recipient in comparison to those who saw the story with the white female welfare recipient. This outcome confirmed that this unbalanced narrative of gender and race had become a standard cultural bias and that Americans often made implicit associations between race, gender, and poverty.[2]

    Furthermore, research conducted by Jennifer L. Monahan, Irene Shtrulis, and Sonja Givens on the transference of media images into interpersonal contexts reveal similar results. The researchers found that "Specific stereotype portrayals of African American women were hypothesized to produce stereotype-consistent judgments made of a different African American woman"[16]
     
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    Blacks, from the time that Republican Party formed to liberate them through the 1932 Presidential election, were solid dependable Republican voters. In 1936, they, along with much of Rural America, became part of the FDR coalition of Working and Middle Class Democrats.

    But until Trump, the long overdue out reach to bring Black Voters Home to the Republican Party, languished.


    Romney and McCain had less than 5% of the Black vote, and lost.
    Trump had 8% of the Black vote and won.
    If Trump takes 16% of the Black vote, Democrats are in Heap Big Trouble.

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    Sheesh. It's not like a light switch.
    Truman got 77% of the black vote when he desegregated the armed forces. It coasted around like that until Johnson did the civil rights act, while Goldwater opposed it, and got 94% of it. In 65 Johnson did the voting rights act and no Republican has gotten more than 15% of the black vote since. So why do you think blacks vote Democrat?
    Why do you think the Southern whites vote Republican?
     
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    That's not true at all, at least this year. Trump is losing women 2-1 in some polls, and by 20 points in the others. I'm certain there are a lot of married women voting for Biden.

    I've never seen the demographic you cited in polling.
     
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    stephenadouglasmemorial.jpg

    Revered to this day by Democrats. If the Democrats' BLM riots had a serious foundation, this memorial would be gonzo along with this monument to the Democrats' KKK:
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    Major political realignments take time. But it's done now, so "otherwise leave office" could mean getting kicked out or not allowed in. Or switch to the Republican party.

    "Younger generation conservatives who stood against segregation.."??? That needs some serious explanation..
     
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