3,355 new Covid hospitalizations in FL

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  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cut back of float bonds.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If they do that, it will most likely have a negative impact on their infrastructure programs planned.
     
  3. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    You care about integrity and track record?

    Are you old enough to remember Judith Miller, NYT and the rest of the MSM regarding WMD and the run up to the invasion of Iraq? Do you remember Curveball?

    You haven't cast a critical eye on any part of the MSM over the years, and you certainly have not regarding their emotional coverage of this covid fiasco.

    Integrity and track record! :roflol:
     
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    Again with asking about my age. What’s the point of that? You wouldn’t happen to be a Boomer, would you?
    I’ve already pointed out news sources I find trustworthy with proven track records. You however have linked stories by known peddlers of disproven conspiracy theories. I’d say there is a clear difference between our news media diets that have been demonstrated in this thread. You seem to go for junk food.
     
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  5. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The point of asking about your age is to determine your perspective.

    The perspective of age differences becomes more obvious as one ages.

    If you did not live through the many examples of media lies and deceptions that I have, I can easily understand why you might believe that the mainstream media is always telling you the truth. Knowing your age helps me understand where you're coming from.

    If you are still young, you likely don't yet understand how the mainstream media is pure propaganda advancing an agenda.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just got a report from a friend who works in a hospital. They have refrigeration trucks to hold the overflow of dead bodies.
     
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    Judith Miller was a shill in the pocket of the Bush Admin
     
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  8. DaveBN

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    Again, I’ve already listed multiple sources from which I seek my news. Multiple reliable sources means I can compare reporting and determine what is most likely true.
    You’ve cited a known liar and peddler of conspiracy theories. If that is the results of your perspective, I say no thanks.
     
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  9. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Fauci is a shill in the pocket of Big Pharma & Associated Interests.
     
  10. DaveBN

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    Really? What pharmaceuticals has he been pushing?
     
  11. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Remdesivir and various vaccines.
     
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    @Eleuthera is more a my pillow guy.
     
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    So Fauci has suggested Remdesivir, but he has not touted it as a miracle cure all, just that it has shown to improve outcomes in 30% of cases. You’re not of the belief that he has something personal to gain from the sale of that medication are you?

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/fauci-didnt-invent-wont-profit-from-remdesivir/

    As far as I know there are no proven vaccines for Covid as of yet, at least none that Fauci has pushed.

    Wait... did you confuse anti-vitals and treatments for vaccines? Is that what happened?
     
  14. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, he does have personal gain from the sale of many Pharma products, especially vaccines.
     
  15. DaveBN

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    Oh, so you can point to him having financial stake in any pharmaceutical companies? Specifically ones producing COVID treatments or vaccines? Do tell.
     
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  16. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Having just watched Plandemic II, I am far more informed about Tony's connections to this fraud than you are.

    I have no obligation to inform one displaying wilfull ignorance.
     
  17. DaveBN

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    Plandemic is a bunch of conspiracy theorist nonsense.
    Prove me wrong.
     
  18. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    You prove yourself wrong because you won't watch it.

    It reveals in tiny details how this was planned. Words from Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, Tedros, and so many more.

    The most informative part for me was the input from David Martin and the evidence provided by the many patents for coronavirus starting in 1999.
     
  19. DaveBN

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    L. O. Freakin’. L.

    Ive got better things to do than waste 26 minutes of my day watching conspiracy theorists make up sh!t and spread it around like an unsupervised toddler.
    You think there’s any validity to their claims then prove it. Cite corroborating evidence.
     
  20. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    YOU prove the official narrative Dave, and we can resume the conversation.
     
  21. DaveBN

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    How about this, I’ll do one then you do one.
    What specifically would you like proven?
     
  22. DaveBN

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    I’ll post my request to you so you have time to prepare your answer.
    Can you offer corroborating evidence that Fauci holds any financial stake in companies producing treatments or researching vaccines for COVID?

    You can of course wait to answer this until after I’ve addressed your question.
     
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  23. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Any element you choose out of the official narrative.

    If you don't know what the official narrative is in general terms, that's your problem.
     
  24. DaveBN

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    Oh, so dealers choice? How about the whole mask thing? I’ll offer evidence that they work. Deal?

    Here is a summary of a study conducted by The Lancet:
    “The global pandemic of COVID-19 has been associated with infections and deaths among health-care workers. This Viewpoint of infectious aerosols is intended to inform appropriate infection control measures to protect health-care workers. Studies of cough aerosols and of exhaled breath from patients with various respiratory infections have shown striking similarities in aerosol size distributions, with a predominance of pathogens in small particles (<5 μm). These are immediately respirable, suggesting the need for personal respiratory protection (respirators) for individuals in close proximity to patients with potentially virulent pathogens. There is no evidence that some pathogens are carried only in large droplets. Surgical masks might offer some respiratory protection from inhalation of infectious aerosols, but not as much as respirators. However, surgical masks worn by patients reduce exposures to infectious aerosols to health-care workers and other individuals. The variability of infectious aerosol production, with some so-called super-emitters producing much higher amounts of infectious aerosol than most, might help to explain the epidemiology of super-spreading. Airborne infection control measures are indicated for potentially lethal respiratory pathogens such as severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2.”

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30323-4/fulltext


    Here is an evaluation of The Lancet as a resource for factual information:
    Analysis / Bias

    In review, The journal publishes original research articles, review articles, editorials, book reviews, correspondence, as well as news features and case reports. All research studies are peer-reviewed. The Lancet also publishes 17 speciality journals. Further, The Lancet is frequently sourced in major publications such as the New York Times, Reuters and numerous fact-checkers.

    In the past, The Lancet has published studies that required retraction. For example, The Lancet was criticized after it published a paper in 1998 in which the authors suggested a link between the MMR vaccine and autism. This study was appropriately retracted in 2010.

    Failed Fact Checks

    • None to date. In fact, The Lancet is frequently used by IFCN fact-checkers.
    Overall, we rate The Lancet Pro-Science and Very-High in factual reporting. (D. Van Zandt 5/22/2020)“
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-lancet/?amp

    There you go. I look forward to your reply to my question. Here’s a reminder:
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Repeating a lie does not make it true.

    Offering straw men does not make an argument persuasive.
     

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