Economic Disruption Will Kill and Endanger Millions of Third World People

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    According to forum rules, pseudoscience like this belongs in the Conspiracy Sub-forum.

    People need to start acting responsibly. Spreading disinformation, myths and pseudoscience only makes matters worse and it can cost lives.
     
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    Hmm, weird. We are now mandated to wear mask, yet, the infection rate is continuing to rise.... yet the death continues to go down. Maybe because liberals realized that putting infected elderly back into retirement homes was a bad idea!

    Data... it's cool!
     
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    Oh for pity sake those are facts no one is saying don were masks, but any one who tells you this pandemic is tracking any differently than the rest is lying. Most of the deaths in any pandemic will occur in the first 3 or four months. After that we begin to develope better and more effective cures. The whole damn point of a vaccine is to develope herd immunity.
     
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    And you merrily ignore how many of those states are Democrat. Such as Michigan, ruined under Whitmer.
     
  5. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's right. Democratic states also suffer the consequences of an incompetent President* in the WH. They are not immune to his incompetence.

    All of them ruined under Trump.
     
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    Given your big business funded libertarianism help derive neoliberalism, which artificially maintains gross inequalities (such that even the World Bank had to admit local populations suffer through North-South trade), your stance is hypocritical to the extreme.
     
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    So wear your face diaper or we'll 'have to' starve millions more to death.

    'Murica
     
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    Here's the problem with that, the more food we send, the more babies they make. Many of these 3rd worlders are irresponsible and have like 5- 8 babies per family (babies they can barely afford to feed). If the food stops, the unnecessary breeding stops.
     
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    That's what happens when infant mortality rates are high and life expectancy low. The overwhelming majority of the population is of childbearing age and child rearing age is earlier as well. My grandmother group up on a farm as one of thirteen kids.
     
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    That's what happens when infant mortality rates are high and life expectancy low. The overwhelming majority of the population is of childbearing age and child rearing age is earlier as well. My grandmother grew up on a farm as one of thirteen kids.
     
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    Yet we are. The nations who had very severe shutdowns didn't collapse in a puddle of mental illness.
     
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    No one (who isn't severely disabled and homeless or similar) is starving to death in America. And those few exceptions happen even in the best of times.
     
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    No they are not. That has simply not happened in the countries which had much harsher lockdowns.
     
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    Not sure why you are repeating this ? Was my response not clear the first time ?
     
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    And yet the director of the CDC is stating otherwise- suicides and overdoses related to depression are outpacing COVID19 deaths.

    "We're seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We're seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,"

    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Robert Redfield, MD

    No one country is special in this regard over any other. People are the same everywhere, at their roots. Spouting "this country is tougher" is no better than the plastic patriots talking about how America is better than any other place. I have failed to see any evidence that in relationship to COVID 19, these stats are any different. The only difference is how the statistics are generated. However, I have seen evidence that the less harsh the state action has been the less suicides and overdoses. Sweden is an excellent example.
     
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    You're missing the point. This mass mental health crisis isn't a result of the lockdowns, it's a result of pre-existing lack of resilience and poor adaptability. There's a reason those in the Developing World and/or more authoritarian nations cope better with these (often much harsher than America's) measures.

    People are the same in many ways, but culturally they are absolutely not.
     
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    No, it isn't. That is pure supposition on your part. I'll explain below


    First, there is no evidence of this.

    Second inconsistencies of methodology on reporting and the fact that nation's like China and Iran haven't been forthright or honest about their numbers makes.it impossible to draw an accurate even if it were.

    One thing transcends all cultures: the fact that man is a social animal. If isolated, it is proven that mental health suffers. Culture is irrelevant to this fact.
     
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    First World Western culture is the most socially isolating on earth. THAT'S my point. THAT'S culture.

    It's the reason there is less 'mental health' drama in locked down peoples who live in places where there are always at least two (but usually three) generations in each home, and where the local villagers are very active in each others lives, because so much of life is lived outside the home .. in the streets/fields/markets etc.
     
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    No, it isn't the most socially isolating on earth. If nothing else, mobility makes it less do.


    I disagree. The west has family farms (my father worked in agriculture and literally knew dozens), we have community. The difference is the we are usually well off enough were multiple generations to not have to share s home.

    You haven't been able to demonstrate a correlative effect. Culture has little impact that man is a social animal and if forced into isolation by the state it is damaging.
     
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    Culture is expressed in the way we live day to day. If people live in multi-generational homes, at close quarters with their neighbours, then lockdowns are going to have little or no effect on their social life.

    For the record, you just confirmed my point when you said we in the First World West no longer live in shared spaces. THAT'S the problem. That's why First Worlders freak out when they're locked down.
     
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    You started blathering about the efficacy of lockdowns, masks, and social distancing. Sweden proves that none of those things are necessary.

    So not only are you liberals responsible for endangering millions of black and brown children in the third world, you're also responsible for needlessly ruining your own societies as well.

    Liberals truly are dangerously unhinged. They will turn the world into a giant hellscape if given the chance.
     
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    That's nice.

    Now back to the thread topic: Lockdowns supported by liberals are junk science that endanger millions of lives in the third world.

    Why do you support endangering millions of lives with pseudoscience Reiver?
     
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    Already made my point. You let it have a whirl in your bonce! Cheers
     
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    Lockdowns, masks, and social distancing are the trifecta of pseudoscience. Liberals are the biggest pushers of pseudoscience in history. Liberals will believe literally ANYTHING the government and corporate media tell them to believe. One day, Fauci will tell liberals there is no reason to wear a mask. The next day, Fauci will reverse himself. And liberals will just believe without question because they have no ability to think for themselves.
     
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    You made a desperate attempt to distract from the utter madness of locking down entire societies.
     

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