https://www.fastcompany.com/4024228...-concede-the-long-and-short-of-election-night It's apparently an issue since around 1980.(took the time to google this baby.) You can see that our recent history aligns with what I've been saying. This is *not* normal, or acceptable.
Everyone needs to remember that most states require that their mail-in ballots dont get counted until election day. That means that most of the mail in ballots are going to actually go into the count in the next day or so. That is why everyone who knew anything about the election said that we would not have a real result until days after the election based on the sheer numbers of mail in ballots. I fully expect some states to actually change a little bit. Which will then fuel the republican fires. Hell, Trump already started that last night in his ridiculous speech. Then he goes on TV tonight and does more harm to American democracy than any one event in the history of America. That speech he just gave did not have one truth in it. It was the most disgusting display of any public official in my 56 years on this planet.
What's wild to me is that Milwaukee had a 2020 turnout that is 14+ pts higher than when Obama ran in 2012 and 23+ pts higher than when Hillary ran in 2016... Quite the historic, unprecedented achievement by the Democrat ground game, I guess, especially given Biden is easily the least likable of the three.
AN, most state legislatures changed the rules, based on Republican rhetoric, to allow for more checks and balances on absentee ballots. And almost every state doesn’t allow absentee ballot counts and verifications top start until Election Day, even if they are received weeks before Election Day. And some states, re: Pennsylvania, dont allow the counts to start until the day AFTER the election.
I never said it's normal. I said that the votes not being 100% counted on election night is completely normal and happens every election. You are missing so many pieces to the puzzle. Nevada's election law says that can't even open the ballot envelopes until election day. The process each ballot goes through to get verified authenticity is pretty long. Multiply that by all the extra votes this year, and this is where we are. It's been discussed repeatedly, for months, that this was going to happen. I expect that the states who have "no open until Christmas," laws, will revise them to make it more efficient next time. Now that mail in is here, it's here to stay. It's far more efficient when it works. In Florida, mail in votes were the first reported, and that's why it looked blue for quite some time. Then, the red votes came in and overcame a seemingly insurmountable lead. I knew that would happen; my husband knew; my brother knew; all our friends knew. Everyone in Florida had a pretty good idea that's how it would go. And, so it went.
So I will explain why I interpreted your post as I did. Politics is about economics, and how resources are allocated; ("It's the economy, stupid"). You said you don't care one way or the other who is president, and you accused "leftists" of being morbidly interested in politics (.... any objections to that interpretation of what you said?....) OK....have another shot at saying what you said.... Re economics: if a country's central bank is in the hands of non-elected private banksters, then the private and public sectors are automatically pitted against one-another. That's why the Right and the Left are perpetually pitted against one another, in our neoliberal democracies. And in the next few days we will see how the Right reacts when it loses...... [But the private-bankster-controlled central bank system* will remain dysfunctional because it engenders an entrenched, insane partisanship; in that sense it doesn't matter who wins....but I'm certain that is not your analysis of the situation facing the nation]. *see MMT, or even China with its government-controlled national bank, for some alternatives to the insane partisanship of neoliberal democracies.
Let's quantify a few things. When you point out that "votes not being 100% counted on election night is completely normal and happens every election", they certainly are counted within a threshold(like say, I don't know 70%) and normally when it gets to that point, the state is declared for the winning candidate. Not only did the election not follow these regularities, but we also saw the declarations of states before a single vote was registered, etc. The whole thing is a rotten fish. And hey, Biden might just win that rotten fish. But even if he does, it will forever stink and the ones who will have a hard time in 2024 will be the Republican Party. You might not agree, maybe everyone should "see" it the logical way, but they won't. The voters who feel disenfranchised will give the best middle finger they can by withdrawing from the process. The only way that can be avoided is to fix the mail-in process to be in line with the real time voting situation(and no more abrupt stoppages).
States get called when the analysts are certain how it will go. They base this on polling and history. California was called at the top of the hour, before a single vote was reported. Does that surprise you? When a state gets called with 70%, they know where the remaining ballots are, and know they can't sway the election. This stuff is basic electoral math. Counties tend to be overwhelmingly red or blue. Broward, where I live, is blue blue blue blue blue. If every remaining vote in Florida was coming from Broward, and there were enough outstanding to change the current result, it would not be called. When they call with 70%, it's because they know which counties haven't reported, they know how many of those votes will likely be for team A, and they know how many votes team B needs to get to overturn. If there's not enough votes to make up the difference, they call it, even though they aren't done counting. This election is razor thin. This is what you are seeing. You aren't seeing a fraudulent election, you are seeing an extremely close election. It rarely happens.
Al/Fl coast. I got a son at Central Command in Tampa. I got Sally and Zeta. Don't think Eta could make it up here we've been having some cool, down in the upper 40's at night temps.
I'll be honest, California didn't surprise me. But given the inconsistency for example with Arizona(calling it, then walking it back and now at the razor thin margins) and then the Cali call happened, to me it was a bad look. It might all be above water, but it's a bad look.
He wants the rules of the election in each state to follow the rules as set by the state legislatures and in most that means ballots must be there by election day or sooner. The must have a matching signature and be properly filled out by the voter. He does not want election officials or state courts to take it upon themselves to change the statutory rules just because it would help the Democrats.
It's perfectly above water. They do guess wrong sometimes, but in my voting life since 1984, it happens so infrequently, it's generally treated as accurate. Florida in 2000 was a rare exception. They called it for Bush, then they reversed and called it for Gore, then they reversed and called it for Bush, then they reversed and we went to hanging chads for a couple of months.
That is what is happening. Even Fox news has said there is zero evidence to back up Trump's claims. Fox News FFS. We've been paying close attention to what the election officials in each state are saying, and everything is above board. They are explaining their laws, and they are following their laws. Nevada waits 10 days for ballots.
My state was tabulated and called that night. We've had no problems with people voting even with the increase in absentee which did not require one of several specific reasons this time. We don't have partisan poll workers divining a voters intent, copying "damaged" ballots to new ballots, allowing not only ballots where the signatures don't match even when there is no signatures and observers were not locked out of observing the counting.
And the Supreme Court did NOT declare Bush the winner. And just 538 fraudulent votes for Gore could have changed the entire outcome, doesn't take widespread voter fraud.
Didn't watch it... your post makes me feel much better for that "oversight" on my part... Was it worse than Helsinki? I guess that was more an attack on American institutions than American democracy...
WE KNOW the Democrats and local judges changed the rules of the election in several states, that's not indisputable. That goes against the Federal and State constitutions.
Oh, I'm a little far out, too, but there is Park and Ride and there are commuter shuttles that will pick you up and take you to Wielhe or Vienna. Being further out didn't keep me from commuting into DC via Metro before the pandemic. I also know someone who was extremely involved in the extension to Dulles. It should go to Brambleton and will hopefully reach Dulles within a year. Just like when riding the train, there are always delays with this schedule. Udvay Hazy is a good alternative to the National Air and Space Museum if you like planes, IMAX theater and occasional concerts or even trick-or-treating there pre-pandemic. However, the latter has bigger space shuttles and moon rock. He's gotta go to both, eventually.
I wonder what is worse? A hanging Chad or a headless Fauci?? SNIP Twitter banned an account associated with Steve Bannon on Thursday and YouTube removed one of his videos after the former Trump adviser called for the beheadings of two federal officials. Bannon, in a video for his podcast recording, had said he wanted to behead FBI Director Christopher Wray and Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious diseases expert. Bannon said he would “put the heads on pikes” as a “warning to federal bureaucrats,” referencing Tudor-era England. ENDSNIP https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...n-results-n1246510/ncrd1246699#liveBlogHeader I thought this asshat was in prison for fraud?? Damn bail system...
So was Florida. We started counting two weeks prior, so they were the first results we sent. If you have evidence of fraud, please share. Fox, MSNBC and CNN would love to see some.
Los Angeles' air was cleaner than it had been for decades, for the brief period of full lock-down at the beginning of the pandemic: https://www.cbsnews.com/video/blue-skies-and-clean-air-in-los-angeles-after-coronavirus-lockdown/ "By some estimates, the pandemic lockdown has taken about 80% of passenger cars off local roads, leading to a dramatic reduction in air pollution. Los Angeles, infamous for its smog, has seen some of the world's cleanest air in recent days, according to the CEO of a company that tracks global air quality. Jamie Yuccas takes a look at how major cities are getting cleaner due to coronavirus restrictions and how scientists hope some of it can be maintained after lockdowns are lifted for our series Eye on Earth. April 22, 2020" But no doubt now back to normal air-pollution levels.......
Here is another example where I find too many of our RW compatriots will not accept these calls for violence are wrong, unfortunately due to politics.
