Trump should concede now.

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  1. Xyce

    Xyce Well-Known Member

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    Basing this on what? That sounds like a cultish refusal to accept a reality that you may not be comfortable with. I think you might be a member of the cult. Drink while the Kool-Aid is still cold, dear.
     
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    I never said Biden won the election fair and square: that is your cultish interpretation of what I said.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    50 lawsuits. Dozens of Trump supporting governors & secretaries of state, numerous Trump appointed judges, all wish for one thing - proof. They were BEGGING for it, and nobody had any.

    They never got any, and their oaths of office make it difficult for them to break their oath for the ego of one person.
     
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    There is well-documented corruption--the legal kind: the misinformation of the press and the suppression of journalism by Big Tech; as for the criminal kind, that was done in the darkness. Republican observers, for example, were too far away, making their function moot; and that is just one example. Your radicalism of empiricism is childish; following your logic, if there isn't proof that a crime was committed, then a crime was never committed. If you kill someone, and make sure to hide all the evidence, using your logic, you never killed anyone. Such sophomoric crap.
     
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  5. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    For the second time, I am not the topic of this thread. I know your facile middle school poo flinging is about the best I can expect from you. But if you try really really hard, close your eyes, bite your lip, you might just be able to squeeze some semblance of a substantive argument out of your little baby brain... or out of your ass... as if there's a difference.
     
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    Cheers. I'm a pretty big fan of you, too.
     
  7. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    Well, your mom sure is.

    By the way is that her calling you up from the basement? Mac N Cheez is ready! She made your favorite -- dinosaur shapes!! Mmmmm!!
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Awww sweetie. Are you jealous of my income? So sorry. I do better under every president, and have since 1982, when I started working. Reason? Who is in the White House has never impacted my ability to earn more income than I did the year before. My home is a paradise, but I appreciate your acknowledging my dead mom & dad. They sure would liked to have known you cared.
     
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    Counting non-Trump ballots isn't corruption.
     
  10. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    Lol. More like Paradise Mobile Home Estates in Pacoima. People who anonymously brag about their "income" on the internet: bus drivers, security guards, 7-11 clerks. I might let you wash my cars. But I check under the wheel wells. You need to do the whole car. No tip if you do a typical stoner loser job. AND DON'T CHANGE MY ****ING RADIO STATION OR MOVE MY SEATS.
     
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    Congress does not officially count and confirm the electoral votes until January 6th. They can all be contested in court up until that point. Until then, Biden is still not even President-elect....
     
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    You have quite the imagination.
     
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    He should tear up a copy of one of his speeches?
     
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    Yes, his concession speech......
     
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    At what point does it amount to sedition?
    And what should law enforcement do if protesters move to insurrection?
    I worry that there are malignant interests pushing trump supporters in that direction.
     
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    How does it benefit the nation?

    I think it more benefits your desire to see him admit defeat.

    Amiright?
     
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    If he did something for the good of the nation it would be a first.
     
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    It would legitimize Biden's victory in the eyes of some cultists who are still entertaining the fantasy Trump has been promoting that there are credible reasons to question the outcome of the election. IOW, it would help align them with reality. Something the country would benefit from since so many conservatives exist in an alternative reality.
     
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    Newsflash.

    I dont like Trump. I didn't vote for Trump.

    The election was fishy purely from a statistical perspective. I'll always doubt the outcome.

    Calling people cultists will not fix that, having him concede won't change that.
     
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    I agree that it is time to concede since this notion of sitting two sets of electors and then having the Legislative Branch make the final decision is more than a bit of a pipe dream. Sometimes the bad guys just get away with an open theft. But also on that point while Trump should concede . . . there is concession and then there is CONCESSION.

    What Trump should do is make a public announcement that for -- say -- the good of the nation he is conceding that the Dem Party sucessfully stole the election and thus he WILL obey the Constitution and step aside for the corrupt and -- let's face it -- the senile President Elect; but that he will in no way concede that it was a legitimate win. In other words exit as he entered . . . fighting for this nation every inch of the way. If the Judicial Branch and election officials across this nation are just fine with the open theft of the presidency then that's 'all she wrote' for this nation.

    So step aside, wash your hands of it, and then be on about your business. But engage in the farce that it was a just 'win'? Nope. Instead, just toss Dementia Joe Biden the keys and walk away . . . of but as you are exiting, perform a massive public information dump of documents revealing every heretofore secret scandal of BOTH the GOP and Dem Party leaderships before waving goodbye.
     
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    The problem is that 'concede' specifically means to admit the legitimacy of a claim that was previously contested. Trump cannot legally (or truthfully) concede if he believes Biden won via fraud.

    Nor should he.

    Admitting defeat may be in the best interest of the country (though I don't think so), but specifically conceding is not.
     
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    Just report him to the mods and be done with it.
     
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    He will concede like the democrats accepted his Presidency the last 4 years.
     
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    And therein lies the problem. Many Trump followers find facts unpersuasive.
     
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    I don't want Trump to concede, ever. I don't want him to congratulate Biden. I want him to push investigations. I don't want him to go to Biden's inauguration.

    I loathe Trump. But just like Obama did, I want him to push the divide. The more discord, the better, until the political system collapses.

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