White supremacy a 'transnational threat', U.N. chief warns

That's the vast majority of white people, but there is a minority that is not that way, and all the Intel and LE services say they are a big problem that ought to be recognized as such.

Again, White Supremacists are NOT victims but victimizers. You don't go marching under Swastikas because you feel you're being oppressed but because you feel you have a "right" to do some oppressing of others yourself, and in the USA you never have that right, even if you think someone IS oppressing you. That's the whole idea of the USA, you DO have legitimate LEGAL channels to redress grievances but you have to use THEM, not make up your own.

 

~ Democrats are out of steam with "global roasting" as we freeze to death, and soon Covid catastrophe will be a moot point. They need something - anything - as an excuse to continue the panic and hate America totalitarian agenda. Coming up : ' Systemic Racism ' .

 

The swastika idiots can barely get a handful at their rallies while the black militants get thousands as they rampage through our cities burning and looting. And yet the focus is on the pathetic miniscule bunch ignoring the massive violence and destruction.

 

Interesting that dems skipped right over my post and kept up their incessant drivel about the dangerous white supremacist and red states. No one is buying that bullshit.

 

According to the cited article(s) the Swastika idiots are much larger than they appear because they are very well hidden. Anything hidden is very dangerous because you necessarily have limited knowledge of how big the problem really is.

Black militants, whatever their manifold other difficulties, are generally open about their disparagements. These are not good things and shouldn't be ignored but at least we are fairly certain as to what sort and size of a problem we face. That is generally much less the case with White Supremacists

 

White supremist exist today but where are they oppressing any other group? Black supremist exist but where are they oppressing any other group? Many lawsuits are brought to the courts for judication and the outcomes are not always what some groups want. I would say over 99% of the people are accepting of the "rule of law". I have yet to hear any of my friends say that we need to suppress another group. I can't say that about some media shows. I'm not on any social media sites so I cannot comment on what content is spewed.

 

And yet the ones destroying cities and attacking people causing billions in damage appear to be the black militants and not the supposedly dangerous but hidden swastika idiots. But the focus appears to be on this secret potential threat as opposed to the violent and dangerous real militants which are destroying so many lives. Our politicians approach to the black militants appears to be appeasement.

 

what he said is true, I won't defend white nationalist or neo-Nazi, no one should

I also agree with the op, no one should defend religious extremists either, Muslim or any other religions extremists

I would also say black racism is on the rise as well against white people

 

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Can you point out these white supremacists. They seem to be everywhere so it should be easy.

Who is asking me to surrender my culture?

The people who:

Don't want me to wear American flag shirts to school
Done want to say the pledge
Kneel for the anthem
Make everything about race (is that our culture?)
Say America isn't great
Turn sporting and entertainment events into anti American/conservative political events
Hire using racial quotas
Want SSM
Want to regulate, restrict, tax to death and/or abolish the 2nd amendment
Violently shut down free speech
Want sanctuary cities (is supporting criminals part of our culture)
Teach critical race theory
Tear down our statues and erase/cancel history and other events

That's just to name a few.

 

Tell that to last summer's rioters.

 

How convenient.

 

I don't think the KKK is global, nor did I say it is: you misread the quote which merely explained the origins of white supremacy. However, racist bigotry IS a global problem.

Your original premise was wrong, as explained above.

I don't need to focus on East Europe; white supremacy exists throughout the Western world (just as racist bigotry exists everywhere).

And here again is its severity in the US;

"In an October 2020 assessment by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf declared that white supremacist violent extremists “have been exceptionally lethal in their abhorrent, targeted attacks in recent years.”*

 

I'm responding to your first sentence that I put in bold font.

Black people in this wealthy country have all the benefits of being American citizens, all the rights of American citizens, English is their first language, they were schooled in America, and most of all, they should know what it takes to succeed in America and they have had trillions of dollars in support. And even with all that, the left still says they can't make it because of the white man.

Meanwhile, the left will tell us that unskilled and uneducated illegal aliens and Muslim refugees will lower our crime rate, boost our economy and do the jobs Americans won't do. The left will tell us day in and day out how great non English speaking illegals and Muslim refugees are and will be for America. But when it comes to blacks, the left never says anything positive about them, the only thing they ever refer to them as are oppressed victims. Hey, if all those unskilled and uneducated illegals and refugees who don't speak English can make it in America, then why can't born and raised American citizens do it? And don't forget, part of the democrat talking points is that conservatives hate illegals and refugees, and if that's true, then blacks, illegals and refugees are all in the same boat, yet only one of those groups can't seem to cut the mustard and its' been that want for decades/generations. Why?

 

..."benefits and rights" which amount to the freedom to compete in private sector free markets.

The outcome is obvious: both blacks AND whites living in poverty, with black poverty and unemployment rates double that of whites (and incarceration rates five times as high).

1. As recently as the 60's there was still legal discrimination against blacks in the US, and such trauma (traced all the way back to slavery) is passed on down the generations.

2. Many whites are also living in poverty.

You are conflating several concepts there...indeed Americans won't do those low-pay, low-skilled jobs which "uneducated aliens" take up to boost the economy; but where did the "lowering the crime rate" come from (since crime is related to unemployment and poverty in the existing American population)?

Depends on the quality/abilities of the refugees.....

Addressed at the start; black generational trauma AND the fact that many whites are also living in poverty, demonstrates a systemic problem related to insufficient above-poverty employment.
Face up to it: the Friedman neoliberal supply-side economic orthodoxy favors those most able to compete in private sector free-markets. Result: 40% of Americans can't find $400 from savings in an emergency...and actual (real) labor under-utilization is never lower than c.10% (ie U6 plus those who have given up looking for work).

[Fed chief Powell says he aims for real full-employment, but he never achieves it...because the system he accepts as a given cannot deliver it]

Addressed above.

And as for refugees: no-one wants to leave their own country, if a secure and safe environment with access to above poverty employment is available. Trump was happy to point to the existence of overseas ***t-holes, but didn't have the vision to do anything about remedying the situation, other than building a wall.

 

" In an October 2020 assessment by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf declared that white supremacist violent extremists “have been exceptionally lethal in their abhorrent, targeted attacks in recent years.”*

 

Please note that just about ALL of those things can be obviated if not avoided entirely just by leaving people alone

How are people victimizing you if you have to go out of your way to stop them from doing things that don't directly affect you at all? Victimizing assumes you are being made a victim, that you are being hurt. How do just about any of the things you cite directly hurt you? What harm are you being done?

And in any case, none of them are really White Supremacy. White Supremacy is regulations that say you HAVE to hire only white people, even if qualified non-whites are readily available. White Supremacy is refusing to sell necessary things to non-whites and enforcing racial segregation. It's this and many other things but it's mainly just what the name says; the white race oppressing all others and if you support White Supremacy that is what you want to do, by definition.

 

Cite these lethal, abhorrent, targeted attacks that you speak of.

A list will do.

We'll wait...

 

Google?

(Link)

List of right-wing terrorist attacks - Wikipedia

But the economic system itself is responsible for all this hate crime, whether on the Left (revolutionary crime) or the Right (reactionary crime).

People with secure above-poverty employment aren't interested in such loser ideologies as those identified in the above list.

 

For the White Supremacists? Quite. It makes it so much easier for their enablers to sell the world on the idea that they are much less strong than they are. Mind, the enablers don't do this consciously. It is both much more effective a sale since the enablers believe it themselves and most people would not enable White Supremacy if they realized they were doing so.

 

I agree. Having gainful employment is the first step in the right direction and no one can argue that Trump didn't create record employment numbers. That's also why Blacks and Hispanics voted for him in record numbers. In such numbers that those who had so thoroughly planned the steal almost crashed and burned anyway because he won FAR more votes than they expected. That's why the counting had to stop in the battleground states. Don't waste time or effort disputing it. I never cared much for people who try to piss down my back and tell me it's raining.

 

I won't. I see that your mind is made up and you don't want to be confused by facts.

 

LOL! And the government has never lied to us, have they?

The white supremacist claims are just stupid. When general statements like the one above are made, without revealing the actual data, then something fishy is at play. Show me the proof or just stop this silly nonsense.

 

I would gravitate more to fear. It amazes me how 13% of the population generates so much discord. Out of that 13% it probably is about 5%. I don't know what to make of it, but they tell me that gun sales have skyrocketed since Covid-19, and the majority of new sales are white woman and black males. That smells like a lot of fear to me.

 

If you took all the genuine white supremacists in America they would probably all fit inside Carnegie Hall. Identity politics is an insidious poison.