White supremacy a 'transnational threat', U.N. chief warns

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  1. a better world

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    Why would the Dept of Homeland security lie.....what beef does it has?

    The only silliness here is your denial that an evil white-supremacy ideology exists.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_right-wing_terrorist_attacks
     
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    The problem with that statement is the Right's insistence that poverty is the fault of the victims (who are predominantly black in the US), rather than an indication of an inadequate economic system.

    So...it's YOU who are engaging in "identity (race) politics"....when you should be calling for Milton Friedman's corpse to be exhumed and hanged....

    Note: white supremacy is in part a response to black demands for "economic justice", because they (white supremacists) wrongly perceive such demands are a threat to their own economic well-being.
     
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    WHEN THE CANCELLERS ARE SCHEDULED FOR CANCELLATION:
    So far this has been a racist battle against the West, with much of the West refusing to even defend. Enter France, rallying to the battle front.

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    In Western Liberalism we are NOT defined by immutable characteristics, such as sex and skin color, rather by our decisions, choices and standards, all things under the power and control of every Free Person.
    To The Courts!
    Why of course they are. That's why they hate Trump, he fought back. Turns out that he was just the scout ahead of the rest of a much bigger party, similarly equipped with backbone. The woke racists could turn out to be nothing more than glass jawed bullies.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/?s=france
     
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    Just as I suspected....a redefining of "white supremacists" in order to push a phony crisis. Your link shows things not even remotely considered as "white supremacy". What a joke!

    Folks, don't fall for this garbage. Leftists create phony problems so they can offer thier solution: communism parading as socialism. Why don't they just show up in a wooden horse?
     
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    This is another phony crisis made up by the leftists to push their agenda.
     
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    I wonder when the breaking point will be for whites collectively? Is there one or will they just go quietly into the night? Conversely, does the anti-white lobby have a limit? We know that many of these people would like to see the ethnic cleansing of whites. How far will they actually go?
     
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    The leftists a white supremacist=anyone who disagrees with them.
     
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    No, the violent criminality of African American culture is what keeps black people poor, there is no conspiracy, what we need is a sea change in black society.
     
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    It's a relentless attack on Western Culture by a bunch of racist America Haters.

    The Week in Radical Leftism. “Yep, we’re now getting called wusses by the French. There is nothing I can add to that.”

    https://www.bookwormroom.com/2021/02/22/le-world-turned-upside-down/
     
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    Friedman's inadequate neoliberal supply-side economics isn't a "conspiracy". It's a failed system which benefits those most able to compete in private sector free markets at the expense of those less able to compete (both whites and blacks) ; thereby entrenching economic injustice and poverty.
     
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    (link)

    White Supremacist Terrorism ‘On The Rise And Spreading’ (forbes.com)

    "Racially and ethnically motivated terrorism—especially from white supremacists—is “on the rise and spreading geographically,” the U.S. State Department said in a new report, as white terrorist threats continue to come to light across the United States."

    (Wikipedia) "Facebook has banned content that is openly white nationalist or white separatist because "white nationalism and white separatism cannot be meaningfully separated from white supremacy and organized hate groups".

    Phony problems like REAL economic injustice, eg, unemployment, poverty and incarceration rates much higher for blacks than whites, including the economic injustice of a failed economic system to which some whites also fall prey?

    But now you are talking: the current failing economic system is THE problem, regardless of race. Nowadays, BOTH white supremacy AND black resentment are a symptom of this failing economic system.





     
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    Wrong premise. Whites aren't a "collective"; some are prosperous, others are not.

    Your post merely reflects race-based nonsense from people who say they despise identity politics...except when a claim by non-whites for economic justice is perceived as a threat ....
     
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    You are doing a pretty good job of attacking yourselves: the various US street riots in 2020, and the grand finale on 6th Jan. 2021, looked very similar to Myanmar at present. And they were mostly whites in the Capitol riots.

    They are living in the past. China's economy will overtake the US before 2030, showing the advantages of state intervention in limited free markets, aka "socialism with Chinese characteristics".

    Stick with your free market nonsense (with crap money-hoover monopolists like Facebook contributing little to the real economy) , and watch economic dysfunction in the US increase. eg 40% of Americans can't find $400 from savings in an emergency: and 35 million are living in poverty (before the pandemic), in the 'richest' nation on the planet.

    Toss in the riots and decrepit infrastructure, and it's no wonder people around the world are referring to the US as a "failed state"...
     
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    Click bait and fake news proves nothing. Where is the proof?
     
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    To your 1st point: no it's not "in the past"; see the underlined in the above quote.

    As to the 2nd point: you don't have to feel guilty about "white supremacist" ideology, provided you don't support that evil ideology....



    Actually, there is more truth in the statement: 'It's the economy' stupid" ....than you realize.

    I draw your attention to the causes of white supremacist ideology: it's based on a reaction to the competition for resources and achievement of economic well-being, which in our current evil Friedman supply side economic system manifests as entrenched unemployment among less competitive/capable individuals of all races, whether white or black. That is, groups are turned against one-another, and blame the other for their poor economic circumstances, when the real problem is a dysfunctional economic system.

    Fact is: a 'good' economy can employ everyone at above poverty level.

    In respect of which, Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley has just yesterday presented a resolution to congress, to legislate that very outcome:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1364019849605697539[/QUOTE]

    How lethal? Put a number on it.

    That's a meaningless declaration.

    "Exceptionally lethal" compared to what? Cholera throughout early human history? Rabid chihuahuas? OJ Simpson? Guys armed with pointed sticks?

    We need a little context here, Chad.
     
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    Compared to peaceful protests on behalf of rights, freedoms and economic justice.

    Have a look at some of the numbers of ideologically-based hate crimes listed here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_right-wing_terrorist_attacks

    Notice : "Right Wing"....don't try to tell us white nationalists are a Left Wing phenomenon. .

    And the fact remains: ultimately all this hatred and violence rests on failing economic orthodoxies which insists the nation can't guarantee above poverty work for everyone of working age. Pathetic.
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    Economic Stimulus Is an Environmental Disaster Waiting to Happen (foreignpolicy.com)

    A public jobs guarantee is the only way to provide economic recovery without endangering the climate.
     
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    The US state department doesn't deal in "click bait and fake news", whether their analyses are correct or not.

    Likewise Facebook HAS banned material it deems "white nationalist", that is also fact.

    And btw, Biden won more votes than Trump, just in case you didn't know...
     
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    NO ONE denies they exist. What people are saying, and for good reason, is that their impact is vastly over estimated. Statistics and REALITY doesn’t reflect what we’re being told and what we can see with our own eyes.

    What we do KNOW and can see is the massive impact BLM and Antifa Have and we’ve got 100s of hours of video showing the damage even with Google working overtime removing all the videos as fast as they can.
     
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    Correct. He got more votes. What’s also an interesting tidbit. Biden won by an even slimmer margin than when Trump beat Hillary. And total votes don’t matter when those votes are concentrated in CA and NY.
     
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    Okay, I tallied all that up, and I came up with a figure of about 560 victims.

    The combined total of victims of right wing terrorists spanning the entire planet over half a century's time doesn't even come close to the death toll on just 9/11 alone in just New York City.

    One day, one city, over 2,700 dead.

    Yep, right wing, I'll acknowledge it. Will you acknowledge that 9/11 was the work of left wing terrorists? If your wiki list above classifies "Christian fundamentalists" as right wing, then how would you classify "Muslim fundamentalists" if not left wing?

    Less than 600 victims of right wing terrorists over the last 60 years worldwide.

    Let's put that in perspective-

    Chicago ends 2020 with 769 homicides as gun violence ...

    abcnews.go.com › wireStory › chicago-ends-2020-769...
    Jan 1, 2021 — The year 2020 ended in Chicago with more homicides than in all but one year in more than two decades.

    Do "right wingers" still seem like a big threat?

    That sounds like commie crap.

    You a commie?
     
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    But we in the West ARE complicit in an inadequate, obsolete economic system based on scarcity in the face of unlimited wants, which, combined with classical liberalism (aka 'sovereignty of the individual'; aka "all things under the power and control of every Free Person"), is particularly lethal in a global economy testing the planet's ecological limits.

    Stop whining about race, and face up to the real problems all of humanity has to deal with; eg poverty, war, and ecological sustainability.
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    Economic Stimulus Is an Environmental Disaster Waiting to Happen (foreignpolicy.com)

    "A public jobs guarantee is the only way to provide economic recovery without endangering the climate".

    Certainly puts all the insanity re women wearing tents on beaches in France, or whatever, into perspective...."Islamo leftists" indeed....

    And as for Britain's glorious days of empire...well, times have changed...

    I dislike Trump not because he is a racist (I don't know if he is or not) but because he is entrenched in the obsolete economic system addressed above (and btw it seems he has some debt problems looming: even his niece is suing him for inheritance fraud...another indication of our 'dog eat dog' economic system ).
     
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    Here's the problem- liberals believe all the hype they're fed by the leftist press, and it causes them to live in a fantasy world about completely detached from reality. The delusions of the liberals prevent them from making accurate threat assessments.

    The disconnect between how the right understands the threats, and how the liberals misunderstands them, is quite jarring when you see it graphed out.

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    World intelligence services, including American ones, say that White supremacists are a major threat. It's hardly the liberal press. It's everyone but conspiracy theorists.
     
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    And they say that for political reasons that aren't supported by the actual numbers and facts.

    The numbers clearly show otherwise. The numbers clearly show that white supremacists represent a tiny threat when compared to other threats- Islamic extremists, black street crime, etc..

    Please show me where my calculations are mistaken, or where my logic is faulty in coming to the above conclusions.
     
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