What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

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What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

  1. The moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers

    4 vote(s)
    3.6%
  2. Fully justified although they go too far sometimes.

    24 vote(s)
    21.4%
  3. Impossible to say

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  4. Unjustified although I understand where they're coming from.

    9 vote(s)
    8.0%
  5. Bunch of racist thugs.

    74 vote(s)
    66.1%
  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Do you know any black people? Why should I assume that just because you are a libocrat that you would?
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Where are "commies" based nowadays, who gives them support?

    Russia formally repudiated communism and the whole Soviet Union in 1989. China still calls itself communist but what they practice is more Capitalist than we are.
     
  3. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

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    now you’re just making things up. I did not say they were “all” unless you’re going to quote me on that. I think that’s their actual goal. Burning, looting and murdering anyone who isn’t bending to their silliness.
    While Marxism isn’t a crime it’s really dumb. If you’re following a Marxist and think they are someone to admire, that’s pretty cute. Those people should be at the top of the FBI watch list.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, and let's ignore 300 years of slavery and oppression.
    Got it.
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm a jazz musician, take a guess.
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

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    Let's get something straight.

    You called BLMers 'murders-looters-marxists'.

    Your excuse that you didn't specify 'all' when a blanket accusation beckons for a qualification is therefore no excuse.

    Would you like for me to call republicans racist jew hating white supremacists neo-nazi insurrectionist thugs because there are plenty photos of those guys at the Trump rally committing crimes on the capitol building?

    I could call republicans that, based on the very criteria you used to blanketly call BLMers with emotionally charged loaded terms which serve no useful purpose in a debate other than to troll your opposition.

    Moreover most blacks are not marxists, while supporting BLM.

    You logic is also twisted, I admire Bernie Sanders but I don't call myself a democratic socialist.

    I admire Noam Chomsky, who is a anarcho-syndicalist, his stated philosophy which sounds a lot like the philosophy Professor Richard Wolff's economic Marxist theories, yet I'm no where near into 'democratic worker cooperatives' as they are.

    I'm a social democrat/capitalist, owner of businesses, jazz musician, photographer.

    What you do is toss around blanket loaded language and expect to be taken seriously.

    Well, not by me.

    If anyone should be at the top of the FBI watch list, it's Donald Trump.
    In fact, he's being criminally and civilly investigated as we speak.
     
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  7. Buri

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    Let me be clearer, a lot of blm people are, in fact, murderers and looters and arsonists. You’d probably take that seriously if they were in your neighborhood but that’s your call.

    while trump may not be the brightest of the bunch saying he should on an FBI watch list just shows you’re really emotionally invested in your dislike for him. So for now I’m going to worry more about BLM acting like complete clowns and destroying millions of dollars in property they don’t own than worry about how dangerous trump is to anything but a bag of hamburgers.
     
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    So it is an all white combo then?
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

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    Your credibility is zero. Congratulations.

    One thing I learned a long time ago, you can reason with ignorance.
     
  10. Moi621

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    If this don't beat all ;)

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-tampa-officer-protests-termination-102051187.html

    Black Tampa officer protests termination for
    using racial slur
    A Black Tampa police officer who was fired earlier this month for using the N-word is calling his punishment "excessive" and fighting his termination with the help of his union.
    The inflammatory word used against African Americans is sometimes also used by African Americans in popular culture and as an effort to reclaim it, though some object to that use, too
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    :rolleyes:


    Black Exceptionalism ?


    Moi
    :oldman:


    No :flagcanada: Exceptionalism
     
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  11. Buri

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    I learned a long time ago people need zero experience on a topic to be really sure they're experts. Does that sound familiar?
     
  12. Reasonablerob

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    No but don't use it as an excuse for violent criminality. Self pity is amongst the most insidious of poisons.
     
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    You're taking it to an extreme. When a black person, when hardly a month goes by, after a few years of it happening, when, an unarmed black person is shot by a nervous cop who has no business wearing a badge and holding a gun, how do you think he or she feels? your argument is a red herring.
     
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    Wholly untrue, ask yourself WHY the police officer is nervous? The officers behave appropriately, those who get themselves shot (with very few exceptions) bring it on themselves. Is it really surprising that those more involved in violent crime get into more violent confrontations with police?
     
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    No need to ignore it. It is history. But it certainly makes sense to move on from it. Give it a try.
     
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    It simply means a system favors one group over another. There’s statistical evidence in housing, justice, healthcare, employment, and education
    supporting its existence.

    What’s insidious is the cottage industry of disinformation attempting to redefine the meaning of systemic racism. It doesn’t mean you’re a racist, the guy next door is racist, the bank on the corner is racist, America is racist therefore bad.

    It means we’ve found specific problems within our system(s) that need addressed. That shouldn’t come as surprise to anyone.
     
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    Black Lives Matter ought to make it clear if they are following Martin Luther King's method or Black Panther's method.
     
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    The USA was basically formed with that thought process.
    Slavery is a huge clue to that.
     
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    Ultimately BLM is working for some brilliant people whose loyalty is to China....... not to the USA.
     
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    The leaders of BLM claim to be Marxist so that is where the reference to commies originated from the person to whom you responded. It is mostly business donations that support them. Russia is no longer communist but it has an authoritarian government as it always has had. China has a capitalist economy but not one with a free market like our capitalism.
     
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    The gang of criminals
     
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    Fully justified although they go too far sometimes.

    the fact that they go to far sometimes, means I would not want them in my neighborhood, just like Trump supporters or any other group with people that get too heated and dangerous at protests

    I will take the vagina hat wearing protestor types in my neighborhood :) no ones business or persons has been hurt by someone wearing a vagina hat
     
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    Chauvin didn't look nervous with his hand in his pocket.
     
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    Yep, cool cat, to be admired.
     
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    You're admiring a person who on purpose chocked a man to death for no reason.
    Good for you.
     
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