Crimeny. Pay attention this time. I'll use big bold. My point is that conflating BLM with antifa is fallacious. Do you see the word "violence" or "mostly peaceful" anywhere? Me neither. Pay attention.
I remember the burning Wendys(or was it a Dunkin Donuts?). It was surprising to see so many of them literally attack businesses that had nothing to do with their supposed grievances.
I'm saying they are equally bad violent movements that the left hasn't really confronted and have instead allowed to run rampant through society. They are different and in many ways, the same.
Wendy's charges higher prices than McDonalds. That must be a criminal offense to the left, who think they have a right to everyone else's stuff.
blm is partial to McDonalds. Whenever you see that brawls break out in fast food joints it’s always blm and it’s almost always a McDonalds.
What would be exceptionally stupid is to judge about 70 million people on the actions of a handful. Supporting Biden, one had best be careful casting stones...
So, is there like a schedule of events posted anywhere?? So regular District residents can avoid the smell? God, I hope none of the BS gets any TV coverage, unless it turns ugly.... which actually, it already is... Let's go with unless it turns violent... I still think, with all the nonsense about not wearing political gear and the rumors that this is a false flag operation to capture more insurrectionists, that this has the potential to be a huge dud...
He did tweet for them to stop. For some reason Twitter deleted it and said it violated their rules. Not sure why Twitter would delete a tweet trying to get them to stop!?
That is right. These in jail are still citizens. The specific charges leveled still must be proved in court. But the Biden admin holds them as were they all communists. Gitmo moved to Washington DC.
You can't paint BLM as a violent movement with a few examples. Seeing a burning building with the caption "mostly peaceful" is a hilarious mistake by the network, but it's accurate, regardless of the optics. It only takes one person to burn down buildings. Thousands didn't burn anything. (More than one person committed arson, but you get my point.) That's what's meant by mostly peaceful. Plenty of rowdiness. Lots of rowdy cops as well. Nothing new, really. But most protestors didn't burn any buildings. Antifa are violent scumbags. So are their enemies the Proud Boys. Portland can have 'em. Biden, Pelosi and others have condemned antifa, though not loudly and not repetitively. Proper journalistic procedure involves not asking the same question once it's been answered. Pelosi wiggled until pressed, but Biden was unequivocal. What I object to is the conflation of the two as if they are one. They are not. They aren't remotely similar, IMO. BLM is a quasi-political organization. Antifa are anarchists. BLM's mission is police brutality against blacks, more specifically, the killing of unarmed blacks by cops. Antifa exist to live in their mom's basement and play footsie with the Proud Boys on the weekend in Portland. As these are generally used as whataboutisms to 1/6, they should be used properly. Antifa would be a valid comparison. Both are anti-government, violent, and loosely organized. BLM is not a valid comparison. BLM is organized around the world, whose mission is non-violent, and they are quasi-political. Two very different animals. I realize Antifa fighting the Proud Boys in Portland or clips of 2017 Berkeley don't stand up to 1/6. That's why BLM is brought into the mix. Since much of the violence last summer was caused by infiltrators, a conspiracy freak might conclude that 1/6 was planned back then. I surely don't think that way, but I'm pointing out the fallacy of lumping BLM with Antifa in a whataboutism on 1/6. Additionally, conflating the two gives the impression that Antifa was involved in the BLM riots when there is no evidence to support it. I'll give you Antifa for 1/6, but then the desired effect goes away. I don't know how many people have thought this through, so good luck. It'll probably work.
\ Just the notion of "overturning an election by resentful power hungry POTUS is incompatible with true democracy. In fact it is the behavior of some Banana Republic........ of the most corrupt kind. How anyone can justify that kind of conduct is beyond comprehension. That is what elections are all about. One Party wins......the other loses. In a true democracy that is civilized.......the loser is expected to conduct himself with dignity and decorum. Not everyone will be happy with election results in a binary system.......... but that's just how it is. If folks can't handle that..........maybe they can't handle true democracy........
Yes, he sent a Tweet. I'm sure he couldn't be bothered with all the entertainment he was enjoying. The Tweet didn't work. Biden spoke to the public before Trump, for crissake.
BLM lost it's voice when it refused to distance itself from the almost NIGHTLY riots their "peaceful" protests would de-evolve into. I mean...there are hundreds of clips I could pull from of BLM participants getting violent or aggressive. Both BLM and Antifa on their own have each done far more damage destruction, violence and death than Jan 6th. Nothing came of it except some liberal tears and finger pointing. The fact you have to dwell on this one riot where as I can point to the many ongoing riots from BLM and Antifa pretty much ends this discussion.
You are delighted to vilify the proud boys yet they joined forces with BLM whom you seem to like very much to the point of making excuses for their burning and pillaging.
There are thousands of clips of protestors peacefully assembling during the day. They greatly outnumbered the rioters at night. I'm not dwelling on anything, but I understand the characterization in bowing out. You saved face.
The deleted tweets didn't work? No ****. He then sent a speech and they left. He did everything except teleport there or fly in a black hawk and parachute down.
Okay . Meanwhile still waiting for the left to denounce the ANTIFA riots and its been a lot longer than an hour.
Biden condemns Antifa, violence 'across the board' amid riots | Fox News Pelosi condemns Antifa violence in Berkeley after criticism | Fox News On heels of rally, Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguín condemns 'violent extremism' (berkeleyside.org) Fact check: Democrats have [not] condemned violence linked to protests (usatoday.com) Our rating: False Based on our research, the claim that "not a single" Democrat has condemned violence at Black Lives Matter and anti-fascist protests is FALSE. Top Democrats including Joe Biden and James Clyburn have spoken out against violence at Black Lives Matter demonstrations, as have some leaders of the movement itself. That may not be to your liking, but it's simply not true that "the left" hasn't condemned the violence.
I agree that everything that you are bringing up is a valid complaint. What I'm doing a poor job of explaining is that the events of 2020 were a bunch of different groups. Early on, there were the people who had a good reason to protest, and intended on peaceful protest. They got a lot of support, so a bunch of other groups jumped in. Some, like BLM, jumped on but brought a group with them by people who weren't dedicated to the original movement. Other groups, like ANTIFA and other anarchist types, jumped in to protest anything government. That brought a lot more violence. Throw in the punks who were just taking advantage to steal and destroy, and you have what we had, a mess. The original protesters wanted to make changes in the way the public and the police interact. Yes, it helps if you obey the law, but it never hurts to strive to improve. Let's assume that most of those people are liberals. But they were a small portion to the idiots they showed all over the news. Those people were mostly non-political or anti-political, not liberals or Democrats, or very representative of them. That's how I've seen it. Just like those people who were at the capitol on Jan. 6th. They were not representative of the Republican party, or even representing conservatives. They had a fake movement, fomented by the President of the United States and others, some well intentioned people mixed in with some extremist groups, and lit the match. Who brought this together? There's evidence that this was orchestrated, And no elected official should be bailing out or helping someone who has broken the law. All of it, with the exception of the well intentioned law abiding protesters for any cause, is inexcusable. But to paint either side with a broad brush as if a few represents the many is wrong.
I take it back then. I didn't realize Biden changed his position from pretending ANTIFA didn't exist. I guess they can do the right thing, it just takes them a lot longer than Trump.
