Disney’s debt is about to be Central Florida taxpayers’ problem

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  1. AKS

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    Even if we took your argument at face value (lol) what the f*** is YOUR problem with a proactive law? If a threat is detected why should the populace wait until damage occurs to take action? You make no sense.
     
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    It has to be done ONCE before you can make it illegal.....
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTF do you mean "cant address the issue". I literally did just that and showed your hipocrisy in the same post.

    Have a nice day
     
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    You conflating the issues. I dont support teaching sex ed to children that young. But you make up whatever helps you sleep at night, but dont accuse me of such.

    Florida is doing nothing of the sort. This is 1000% a political reaction for political gain. What I have a problem with is that they went after Disney for supporting the LGBTQ community. Disney never said they supported teaching kids sex ed, they said they supported LGBTQ rights, nothing more, nothing less. Desantis pushed this and the overreaction to it for political gain. And he needs to be very careful because in the last election he won with a margin of 0.4% of the vote.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because is a political law !!!!! This was done 100% for political gain.

    FFS man, Stevie Wonder can see that !
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Oh blah blah blah declaring yourself they "hypocracy" monitor which means you simply can't address the issue.

    Why should Disney get special corporate treatment?
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    It's a parental control law, what do you have against parents controlling their child's education?
     
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    By speaking out AGAINST the bill, they aren't supporting LGBT+, because the bill doesn't address gay people being unable to speak or gay being a bad word. Did you read it? They are supporting keeping parents in the dark regarding what teachers can and can't say to their children. Why would you support a teacher talking sex to your kid or telling them there are 26 genders, behind your back at K-3? Its NOT the place of a teacher, especially not K-3. I never knew my teachers first name, much less their marital status or private life. I think I was actually learning. I remember my 4th grade teacher leaving to have a baby, so I probably assumed she was married, since that was normal in the late 70s/early 80s. Maybe not now=) Why any teacher needs to share personal info, talk politics or seek validation from 5 year olds is MESSED UP!!!!
     
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    Suing the school district and ending the careers of teachers is NOT a legitimate response to a teacher telling the truth in an age appropriate manner.

    And, the idea that DeSantis has ANY legitimacy on this topic, let's remember that he has identified large numbers of MATH textbooks on the grounds that they are perverting small children!!
     
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    It's up to the parents on what's an age appropriate manner.. if a teacher can't follow that simple rule then she shouldn't be a teacher or around young children

    And the math books are a joke, they are injected woke crap
     
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    There is no guideline for that in the law.

    And, there is no way for teachers to guess how ridiculous each parent might be.
     
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    Good.. then it should be NOTHING from the teacher.. the only reply from the teacher should be "we are not talking about that in school, if you have questions ask your parents"

    Done... Simple... Any moron can adhere to such a simple law.. you don't talk about it at all..
     
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    That's not actually a solution. Teachers do have to explain that discrimination and other intolerable behavior concerning sexuality is not OK.

    Some parents in this world believe that such intolerance is exactly what SHOULD happen!!!

    >> Plus, nothing magic happens at K-3. This bill is just the wedge issue that brings with it intolerance and ignorance throughout our public schools. It is DeSantis "grooming" the populace for hate and discrimination aginst the entire LGBTQ community.

    Remember that DeSantis is eliminating MATH and other books, suggesting they "groom" children for sexual "perversion".

    This is not just about K-3. It is about developing a pattern of hate and discrimination based on human characteristics over which no individual has control.
     
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    A question for all of you. Would any of you have a problem with showing children a film that was about polygamy? How about a brother and sister involved in a sexual relationship with each other?
    How about a teen girl who decides she wants to have a baby, so she goes to a sperm bank, and the whole film glorifies that and doesn't show anything negative about that decision.
     
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  15. WillReadmore

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    This is ABSOLUTELY OFF TOPIC.

    Please return to the topic, or start some other thread.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My point was only that there are some things that you wouldn't want Disney showing children.

    Democrats would be likely to do the same thing, if it was something they disagreed with.
     
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    Again, that is obvious, and TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.

    And, then you add that garbage about Democrats that has NO POSSIBLE relation to this issue.
     
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    For K-3 children..................how absurd that you would claim they have to be explained anything at all and it would be up to the PARENT anyway.
     
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    It is sexuality which you want teachers to teach young children their parents be damned.
     
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    But... But... its FREE SPEECH to bully homo's... Why would you want to interfere with their god given right?


    /sarcasm off
     
  21. WillReadmore

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    Again, this is TOTALLY off topic.

    The Disney issue is that DeSantis used the power of the government to penalize Disney for speaking its opinion of legislation.

    THAT is NOT OK.
     
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    No, you are not even SLIGHTLY listening.

    I've said NO such thing.

    What I've pointed to is that the issue DOES come up in K-3, where kids bully, ask questions, etc., etc.

    I have always said that no answer should be outside the range of legitimate K-3 communication. That doesn't need to include anything other than points such as having two mommys, etc., does not justify bullying, etc.
     
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    lol who pays that teacher's salary?
     
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    That's obviously TOTALLY irrelevant.

    There was proposed legislation.

    Disney expressed its opinion on the legislation.

    For DeSantis to then use the power of the government to penalize Disney is absolutely unacceptable.

    Consider where that leads. Are you OK with the government coming after YOU if you comment on legislation?

    What kind of government allows the government to attack citizens for what they say?
     
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    It's not restricting. It's removing a substantial benefit.

    The RCID was originally created for political gain. How many private companies have the ability to self govern?
     
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