Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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    Wow!
    The differentiation in the subpoena.


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    Even if one bought Trump bogus "standing order to declassify" defense, Grand Jury subpoena was for docs "bearing classification markings," not for "classified" docs, and Trump didn't turn over dozens of those Yet Trump had his lawyer certify he did Sec 402 obstruct GJ easy charge

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    It would be a betrayal of the rule of law for only Trump’s lawyers to go to jail, and not the client himself. I do not see how DOJ can look the other way.

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    One of Trump's lawyers is Christiana Bobb who is now also referred to as Trump's "custodian of records" for the June stash. During a post 8-8 interview Bobb said Trump's "legal team" went through all the boxes in June and gave the classified documents to the FBI.
    She and Cocoran lied in the write up of the affidavit and Bobb signing it.

    link:
    Trump's Legal Liability Gets Clearer With New Court Filing | Time

    Snips:

    "But his current fight with the National Archives over a trove of documents may turn out to be the legal quicksand Trump has the hardest time escaping. His lawyer, his custodian of records, and Trump himself could all be criminally liable for obstructing an investigation to recover national security secrets he allegedly took with him from the White House to Mar-a-Lago when he left office 19 months ago."

    Snip:

    "In their latest filing, prosecutors appeared to go a step further, asserting that they believe they have evidence of a crime. “The government also developed evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed from the Storage Room and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government’s investigation,” says the Justice Department’s Aug. 30 court filing.

    The latest government filing is the most damning so far, and only came about in response to a request from Trump’s legal team for a judge to appoint a so-called “special master” to review the material seized from Trump’s club in August and set aside anything covered by attorney-client privilege or executive privilege. "

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    It's surprising that there isn't a Twitter button above along with the images/media etc,
    To use the available Twitter here one needs to sign up to Twitter...No!
    Adding a Twitter button to a site one can just copy the Tweet ,click the Twitter button and paste it on their post, no need to be signed up for Twitter.

    Bradley Moss, Great summary of the DOJ's filing last night.


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    Bradly Moss cont:

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    Judge A. Napolitano touches on Assange and Snowden

    "Why Donald Trump will soon be indicted"

    "What will his defense be?"

    Snips:

    "It gives me no joy to write this piece.

    Even a cursory review of the redacted version of the affidavit submitted in support of the government’s application for a search warrant at the home of former President Donald Trump reveals that he will soon be indicted by a federal grand jury for three crimes: Removing and concealing national defense information (NDI), giving NDI to those not legally entitled to possess it, and obstruction of justice by failing to return NDI to those who are legally entitled to retrieve it."

    "But the Bush-era statute, the one the feds contemplate charging Mr. Trump with having violated, makes it a crime of obstruction by failing to return government property or by sending the FBI on a wild goose chase looking for something that belongs to the government and that you know that you have. This statute does not require the preexistence of a judicial proceeding. It only requires that the defendant has the government’s property, knows that he has it and baselessly resists efforts by the government to get it back."

    "What will Mr. Trump say in his defense to taking national defense information? I cannot think of a legally viable one."

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    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/aug/31/why-donald-trump-will-soon-be-indicted/




     
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    Wait, what this dude thinks they'll get him on obstruction of justice and doesn't know what the documents are yet? What if they are the unclassified documents surrounding the FISA warrant and Russian Hoax? What we know for sure none of these had anything to do with National Security because BIDEN TOLD US HE WASN'T INFORMED. He is the commander in chief and is briefed on everything involving National Security. He would have to be the one to decide to go get these documents if they were a national security risk. Don't fret, tomorrow the judge will allow a special magistrate and will soon answer the question if these documents are to be considered personal. The government drip drip drip will have the Trump team countering, so that'll probably end.

    I would think one would ask themselves, why is the DOJ doing this drip drip drip leaking if the case was such a done deal? Why haven't they charged him, they got the docs, they have what Team Trump said in June, and they've been working on this all-damn year? Why is still no one in cuffs, is the FBI incompetent even though they say they have the evidence?
     
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    Give it up,

    "The 1978 Presidential Records Act establishes that presidential records belong to the US government and are not the private property of a US president."

    End of story!
     
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    Another Trump "woe is me" doozie from Trump's incompetent legal team?

    "Trump legal team submits 19-page response | Dan Abrams Live"
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    Aug 31, 2022


     
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    Okay.......umm......

    Link.

    Squirming all over the place. Does anyone over there buy this bullshit? The dickhead HAD the stuff. End of story. "Give and take." Huh? There is no give and take. You don't take in the first place, ya wanker! Then, if you are caught taking, you give...100%! There is no room for negotiating, you idiot lawyers. You have what ain't yours to have. /End!
     
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    It's obvious that these embarrassingly stupid and desperate lawyers of Trumps who are doing his bidding had not paid enough attention to what happened/is happening to Trump's long list of ass-kissing lawyers who preceded them.

    Or maybe they think they're special and won't become the laughingstock, if not already, of the legal profession and eventually could be disciplined, sanctioned, subpoenaed and/or indicted like their fellow fools.



    "Mr Trump was engaging in a "standard give-and-take" with the US National Archives over the return of presidential records, his attorneys said.":roflol:

    "They said he allowed FBI agents to "come to his home and provide security advice".:roflol:


    "Trump's lawyers argue that under the Presidential Records Act, the Archives should have followed up with a good faith effort to secure recovery of presidential records",:roflol:

    rather than referring a criminal probe to the Justice Department."





    Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/31/politics/trump-response-mar-a-lago-search-special-master/index.html
     
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    Video on "obstruction", Trump's lying lawyer's Christiana Bobb, Habba and Corcoran.


    Melissa Murray:
    "MAGA"
    "Making Attorneys Get Attorneys" LOL



    "Donald Trump attorney Christina Bobb might need her own attorney for allegedly lying for Trump. New details have emerged about Bobb and the Trump legal team's failure to fully comply with a subpoena for documents marked as classified. The New York Times reports that back in June Bobb signed a statement attesting that all the sensitive material in Trump's personal possession had been returned. Her statement was attached to the Justice Department’s filing on Tuesday. Joy Reid and her panel discuss."
     
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    Christiana Bobb was a big part of OANN pushing the 'election fraud" lies.
    She's being sued by Domians and I don't know if she was named in the defamation lawsuit filed by Ruby Freeman and daughter that OANN had settled.
    She worked on his 2020 election camapign.
    Boob was in Trump's "war room" on Jan 5 and last Spring was subpoenaed by the J6 committee.
    She also worked for Trump's "DHS" , a cheerleader no doubt for the separation of families with no system in place to track the children resulting in children lost from their parents forever.

    Yep..just the credentials Trump looks for when hiring legal counsel to represent him.

    link:
    OAN Host Christina Bobb Ditches Far-Right Network: Next Stop, Trumpworld? (thedailybeast.com)

    March 10,022

    "One America News Network host Christina Bobb is leaving the embattled far-right cable news network, three people familiar with the matter tell The Daily Beast. Bobb did not say on Thursday where she’s headed next—but according to the sources, she was very recently discussing a job offer with former President Donald Trump.

    Even within an OAN lineup that is overflowing with Trump devotees and MAGA sycophants, Bobb stood out, in large part because she actually worked on Trump’s post-2020 election legal team, all the while covering the issue on-air at OAN. (She did not disclose this conflict to her viewers.)

    Those who’ve spoken to the twice-impeached former president about Bobb say that he’s been interested in recruiting her to work for him primarily because he’s a fan of how strident she’s been about claiming, falsely, that the 2020 presidential election was “stolen” from him."

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    The special master hearing is over... No immediate ruling coming from judge (I believe she has to get her Federalist Society directions first)...
     
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    Judge Cannon wants more time to consider national security and privilege issues raised by both sides.

    Say wha?
    Trump's new lawyer Kris is actually comparing the Secret Service security at Mar a Largo when Trump was in office to when Trump left office.


    link:
    "Federal judge puts off ruling on Trump's request for a special master but elects to unseal additional records related to Mar-a-Lago search" (msn.com)

    Snips:
    Back and forth:

    "Chris Kise, who recently joined Trump's defense team, had argued that the judge was in a "challenging" and "unique position" to "help restore public confidence" in the DOJ. He added that the "temperature is very high on both sides," and there's also a "significant lack of trust between both parties."

    Kise also downplayed the legal and national security risks of Trump moving records from the White House to Mar-a-Lago after leaving office, saying the documents were stored "at a location that was used frequently during his time in office."

    James Trusty, another defense attorney on Trump's team who previously served as a federal prosecutor, said it was "extraordinary" for the government to push back on the appointment of a special master.

    Trusty also referenced the DOJ's argument that the appointment of a special master would "significantly harm" the US's national security interests given the sensitivity of the documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago.

    "What is the harm that they are worried about?" he said. "What possibly could justify this kind of vehement objection and rejection of Fourth Amendment law," which relates to the search and seizure of individuals' property.

    "I would suggest to the court that all we are talking about today is a very modest step," Trusty said, before Cannon interjected.'

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    It might have been a "modest" step IF:

    - The DOJ hadn't already reviewed everything
    - This act wasn't patently obviously SOLELY for the purpose of delay
    - It had been filed within 72 hours of the pleasant FBI visit...
     
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    Oh No!
    Please, no details about Macron's sex life.:roflol:
    It's been reported since the seize of a file on Macron that gossipy Trump would tell friends he knows all about it.

    link:
    "Trump raid judge to unseal detailed inventory of what FBI seized at Mar-a-Lago, delays special master ruling" (msn.com)


    "A federal judge in Florida said at a hearing Thursday that she will unseal a more detailed inventory of items FBI agents seized in the Aug. 8 raid of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence.

    Judge Aileen Cannon also will make public a status report by the investigation team probing the removal of documents from the White House when Trump left office in early 2021."

    Snip:

    "Jay Bratt, the DOJ's top counterintelligence official, at the hearing also argued that Trump is not entitled to a review by a special master of the documents because "he is no longer the president."

    "And because he's no longer the president he had no right to those documents ... that ends the analysis," Brat said."

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    Most likely they'll be an appeal by either party.
    The DOJ had said that a Special Master will hold up their investigation, to what extent and just how I'm not sure, or with an appeal?


    LINK:
    Trump’s Legal Team Scrambles to Find an Argument - The New York Times (archive.ph)
    Aug.28,2022

    "The lawyers representing the former president in the investigation into his handling of classified documents have tried out an array of defenses as they seek to hold off the Justice Department."

    'Trusty was hired after Mr. Trump saw him on television, people close to the former president have said. Mr. Corcoran came in during the spring, introduced by another Trump adviser during a conference call in which Mr. Corcoran made clear he was willing to take on a case that many of Mr. Trump’s other advisers were seeking to avoid, people briefed on the discussion said."
     
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    Here's a funny argument the T**** legal team made in their response last night, that I just found out about....

    What has T**** being saying since practically day 1, and that he's continuing to lie about to this very day?? I Declassified everything....

    SNIP
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    ENDSNIP

    So, In my favorite A Few Good Men moment - Colonel Jessup, if the material was all declassified by you, why would you need a special master with a Top Secret clearance????

    Somebody can't handle the truth....
     
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    Trump and his Habahabahaba lawyer gal have their panties in a wad over the evidence the FBI gathered, laid out on the floor to photograph and marked the group "2A" for the box to be labeled.
    The two of them obviously believe their supporters are as dumb as a box of rocks.....(chuckle)

    Ryan Cohen is spot on and funny,

     
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    In addition, it's being reported that the FBI agents needed to get a top-secret clearance to view/read some of the documents.

    IIRC: In all the correspondence between the NARA and Trump's legal team and in the motion they filed for a Special Master, Trump's team never made the claim that the documents were declassified when in his possession or after the FBI seized them.
     
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    Habba's stupidity for a lawyer and blatant lies are beyond cringe worthy.
    One could almost pity her, almost.

    Link:
    'Spin is real': Trump attorney responds to uproar over classified documents (msn.com)

    Snips:

    "The spin is real, David,
    Habba told host David Asman about the media reaction to her comments. "It is real. No, that's exactly my point. I have never seen anything remotely close to that. I had said his office was incredibly tidy.":roflol:

    "They give you this appearance that you walk in, and there’s these top-secret documents just strewn about," Habba said. She also said Trump often had visitors in that office."
    Uh.....no they don't.

    "During the Fox Business interview on Thursday, Habba criticized those who tied her comments to an affidavit for "a completely unrelated case." The attorney said she is not Trump's attorney on the Mar-a-Lago case and was instead the attorney for one regarding Trump's business dealings in New York.

    She previously told a New York state court that she conducted a "diligent" search of Trump's private residence that included "all desks, drawers, nightstands, dressers, closets, etc." in early May, according to court records.":roflol:

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    Seriously, wtf is wrong with Habba & Bobb?
    Attention whores for being on TV then spewing lies that are so easy to disprove because they both have an audio/paper trail claiming otherwise.

    She may not be Trump's lawyer on the Mar a largo case right now but she certainly was and did all the leg work supposedly finding what was to be all of the remaining classified documents together to answer the subpoena.

    I never knew Trump's other properties were involved.

    Trump Tower, NJ Golf course,Trump Organization offices were also supposedly searched by Habba & Co.

    Unbelievable read from Habba answering the subpoena.

    DocumentDisplayServlet (state.ny.us)

    Snip: Page 6

    ." On May 5, 2022, I diligently searched each and every room of Respondent’s private residence located at Mar-a-Lago, including all desks, drawers, nightstands, dressers, closets, etc. I was unable to locate any documents responsive to the Subpoena that have not already been produced to the OAG by the Trump Organization. e. On May 5, 2022, I diligently searched Respondent’s personal office located at Mara-Lago, including all desks, drawers, file cabinets, etc. I was unable to locate any documents responsive to the Subpoena that have not already been produced to the OAG by the Trump Organization."
     
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    Of course they didn't.... you can't put knowingly put a lie in federal filing... They'll go on TV and look like buffoons, but not in federal filings...

    Here's another chuckle I got from the hearing today.... T****'s latest excuse for a lawyer said this:

    SNIP
    “You are in a challenging and unique position to restore order and public confidence in the judicial process,” Kise told Cannon, who was appointed to the bench by Trump in 2020.

    “We need to lower the temperature. We need to take a deep breath,” he said. “This isn’t about some low-level military person stuffing documents in their pockets and sneaking out in the middle of the night,” he said.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ed-documents-judge-special-master/7963354001/

    He's correct... This is about a low-quality political person stuffing documents in boxes and sneaking out the morning of the inauguration.....
     
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    :roflol:Indeed!



    The day wouldn't be complete without hearing what Kise's sidekick James Trusty had to say.

    "James Trusty, a lawyer on Trump’s team, compared the situation to an “overdue library book.”


    "An ‘overdue library book’: the latest on the Mar-a-Lago legal saga" - Deseret News
     
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    Check Russia's ebay. :roflol:


    link:
    "Trump search inventory reveals new details from FBI seizure | AP News"

    By ERIC TUCKER47 minutes ago

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    "WASHINGTON (AP) — FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump’s Florida home last month found top secret records in an office and storage room, along with folders with classified banners but nothing inside and more than 10,000 other government records with no classification markings, according to a more detailed inventory of the seized material made public on Friday.

    The inventory compiled by the Justice Department reveals in general terms the contents of 33 boxes and containers taken from an office and a storage room at Mar-a-Lago during the Aug. 8 search. Though the inventory does not describe the content of the documents, it shows the extent to which classified information — including material at the top-secret level — was stashed in boxes at the home and mixed among newspapers, magazines, clothing and other personal items."

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