Should potential presidential candidates undergo a security risk assessment?

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are you wiling to limit the quality of any candidates we might have in order to do so. Do you know the story behind the blind trust that President Carter and the blind trust the Carter peanut farm was placed? Did you know it took him years to get it out of bankruptcy because of how the blind trust had managed it. I mean if you think the best of the best to serve as President would those who had no success in their lives in the private sector and would have to put that success out of their reach and control and subject to losing it all in order to serve as President then OK. Me? I would prefer people who were successful OUTSIDE of government to serve as the leader and protecting their privacy in the process. And if you want to limit a Presidents advisers to only those who had had unremarkable lives and accomplishments.

    Does that include Hunter Biden? What if the family member has no part of the administration why should they have to go through such training? And the personal residency is the PERSONAL residency family members can treat it as any family residency,
     
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    A constitution is and should be a “living document”. This would affect both sides and it would not necessarily be the FBI investigating
     
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    And their taxes should be open to all
     
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    Congress has multiple multiple members who have to be security checked before they sit on certain committees
     
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    Article V describes how our Constitution is amended. Every living generation is free to follow that process.

    Seems the Left is interested in everything but the election in 58 days. Weird!
     
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    They TRIED. But even Trump University was a loud clanging alarm bell. There were concerns raised over his involvement with Russia, his financial obligations to Duetshe Bank, his deals and ties with the Saudis etc etc etc
     
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    Each House of Congress operates under the rules they agree on.
     
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    So? As someone said - this would have precluded the Clintons for running for office - this is a “both sides” issue
     
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    And yet there has already been 27 amendments
     
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    How do you put real estate, IE: Land, into a blind holding? Does the land somehow get moved or something?

    And HELLZ to the no about friends having to go through security clearances just to visit him. I get it for the advisor part...not that the President can't just bypass that, which they can (and congress has no say in that as they have no control over such things for the executive branch)...but friends? Pfft. No.
     
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    Ahh! The game plan of the Democrats behind the raid of Mara A Lago is peeking up from under the covers. Convince the voters that Trump can't be trusted with classified documents and therefore shouldn't ever be given security clearance ever again.
     
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    You will not get 38 state legislatures to agree to give the dirtbag FBI veto power over who gets to run for President. We are a Liberal Democracy not a totalitarian dictatorship with some pretense of self-rule. We have actual real self-rule and anyone in government who does not understand that is a usurper.
     
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    Actually he was talking about MS-13 in that speech.
     
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    This will not be a future constitutional amendment.
     
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    Who's gonna do the assessment and what are its criteria?
     
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    It is a living document in that it has an amendment process. "Living document" does not mean you can re-interpret things in it to suit your agenda or add things to it without the amendment process.
     
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    I wouldn't bet on it. Given the fact that the educators of our country are still getting away with teaching CRT and graduates of many colleges don't have a elementary understanding that our government consists of three branches and/or their function, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Constitution being completely revised in another fifty years. Schools are already being renamed that were named after our founding fathers because of the cultural influences they lived by. History is being rewritten as we speak disowning the finding of our a great Nation. Would it really be a stretch to imagine in fifty years we wouldn't recognize how we elect representatives (if they even will be called that) to govern our (if we can even say "we the people" anymore) country?
     
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    I have confidence in the American People.
     
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    I'd like to think they would resist such extreme changes, but when you have leaders demonizing millions of their fellow citizens (MAGAs are semi fascists) with the full support of MSM, I have my doubts that more Americans could not be brainwashed to obey them. Look no further than what the Democrats managed to get away with with just one pandemic/crisis.
     
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    Even now Congress (under Pelosi's leadership) is trying to circumvent the Constitution by mandating another requirement to run for POTUS.
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1
    What's next?
     
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    They didn't fail to warn the voters. They warned them very clearly.

    The problem is (and as Trump so eloquently pointed out himself) Trump could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose any votes.

    The warnings fell on deaf ears. Actually worse than deaf ears. They fell on ears of people sticking their fingers in their ears and shoting "NaNaNaNaNa. I can't hear you!"
     
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    58 days.

    Don't think these folks are more than a 1/3rd of the electorate.

    GREAT MOMENTS IN DIVERSITY: Private School Diversity Director: ‘BIPOC Students’ Must be Protected from ‘White Gaze.’

    'The Director of Diversity and Inclusion for a private school in Baltimore expressed support for racial segregation in order to protect students from the “white gaze” and promoted turning children into woke activists.'

    Ever check out the salaries these "Diversity Directors are pulling down. The ones I have been able to check have been $150-200k/yr.

    'Kalea Selmon, the Director of Diversity and Inclusion at Maryvale Preparatory School, gave a presentation where she argued that nonwhite students must be given spaces away from white students and described how those who work in education can use students as activists.'

    Do not underestimate how many Americans, see straight through this, spot that it's a scam, but don't feel like being name-called, but damn sure plan to vote against it. Have you noticed that parents are sweeping school board elections? When in your life have you seen so many parents run against snotty school board members AND BEAT THEM, like you have seen in the last year? Rhetorical question, none of us have ever seen anything like this.

    'The presentation was given at the People of Color Conference, which is hosted by the National Association of Independent Schools (NAIS) and tells teachers and administration how to embed the tenets of Critical Race Theory into their schools. The NAIS is America’s largest accreditation agency for K-12 private schools.'

    You are going to to see race based admission standards fall this fall. They have been in place for most of the life times of most of us.

    'In a video of part of her presentation, Selmon claims that “BIPOC spaces are sacred.” The term stands for “Black, Indigenous, People of Color.” Selmon then goes on to say “It’s necessary for BIPOC students to have space away from white gaze and that it is absolutely okay to give black and brown students things you’re not giving white children because the white children are fine.”

    All we have to do is run this video as ads, with very little commentary. Look at Herschel Walker's latest ad where he, with his characteristic welcoming smile, talks about the greatness of the American People, contrasting it with the hateful rhetoric of those that claim we are inherent racists, not because of anything we have said and done, they describe us as inherently racist simply as an innate characteristic as if it were original sin that we have no will or power over, we just are hideously guilty, because they declare it so. I'm confident that 2 out of 3 see this, quietly conclude that its deranged, and that 2 out of 3 of those folks don't feel like fighting about it, so they will keep their mouths shut, but, they are still going to vote.

    'So the spaces are separate — and equal as well?'

    It's deranged, an undeniably so. There was a long time when there really were no fundamental differences between the parties, but, most of the GOP is simply being quiet and composed, the contrast with the hysterical rantings off too many on the Left draws itself, and they are mentally fatiguing.

    This election will be a turning toward maturity, sensibility, composure, and reason. We do have to get out and vote, and encourage our neighbors to do the same, but, I think we'll like the outcome, from the top of the ticket, all the way down to the school board elections. Remember to set a few hours aside to really do a good job researching your choices before you vote, and be sure to go through the whole ticket.
     
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    JUST WHO WOULD DO THE SECURITY RISK ASSESSMENT? WE CAN'T TRUST THE GOV, WITH THE PROVEN BIAS OF THE FBI--CIA--DOJ--& A.G.! SO WHO WOULD DO IT? :) :evil:
     
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    People should always get security clearances before they receive security information access. Candidates for office are among those people. No need to do background clearances on candidates simply because they file for office.
     
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    I don’t think the raid on Mar-a-Lago was to prevent Trump from ever gaining another security clearance. What it did however is to get Trump in front of the cameras and on the news constantly whereas prior he was basically in the background. Independents don’t like Trump much, with him in the background independents were stating they’d vote Republican for this year’s midterms 45-35 on 1 August. Since Trump has come up front and centered, independents now say they’ll still vote Republican, but by a slim 42-39 margin today. Trump is a gift that keeps on giving to the Democrats, especially among independents who dislike him. 58% of all independents view Trump unfavorably.


    What the raid did was to take the focus off inflation, rising prices and put that focus on Trump. That is paying dividends for the Democrats. Among independents that is. If the Democrats can keep the focus on Trump, keep him in the news 24/7 they have a very good midterm. But let the focus return to the economy, inflation etc. then the Republicans will have the good midterm. This election has over the last month and a half become more about Trump than anything else. This was the last thing the Republicans wanted.
     
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