Why Do Democrats Want Social Security To Go Bankrupt?

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  1. Rampart

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    last i checked the social security trust fund represents over $2T of the national debt. iow is owed by the taxpayers to our retirees.

    and as for "nonsense...."

    sure, bullseye, the 24/7 year long celebrity endorsed advertising campaign culminating in enough mailers to deforest a jungle is necessary for efficient delivery of health care. dy no mite!
     
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    Govt.
     
  3. Bullseye

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    Which isn't as much as it sounds given SS pays out nearly a trillion a year. For the lasst couple of year FICA revenue hasn't covered the cost.
    WTF are you talking about?
     
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    i am , of course, talking about the marketing blitz aimed at selling the privatized plan d "medicare." or do the networks and cable systems provide that ad time free as a public service? i'm sure that shatner, namath and the others donate their time in the interest of better health care.
     
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    Quite ironically lucid but still desperate enough to be compelled to deflect.
     
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    Excellent question, and here more excellent questions:
    Why do Democrats want to destroy American army?
    Why do Democrats want to destroy American industry?
    Why do Democrats want to destroy American science?
    Why do Democrats want to destroy religion?
    Why do Democrats want to make every American a gay?
    Why do Democrats want support Russia, Iran and North Korea?
    Why Democrats are Satanists?

    If you are a gullible person read these questions before voting!
     
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    "Marketing blitz"? What "marketing blitz"? I haven't seen a word on it. The only "blitz" I've seen is desperate Democrats trying to gaslight the electorate -"The Republicans are going to take away your Social Security!!!!"
     
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    You've got it bass ackwards and upside down.

    The opposite is true. Republicans give more to the rich (Trump's unnecessary tax cut) and now they want to cut SS and Medicare, and thus less to the poor.

    With Trump's tax cut, that will accelerate it.

    Why are republicans solutions always to give more to the rich, and less to the poor?

    Obviously, they hate poor people and love rich people..
     
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    Dependency and fear. It's what they have. About the only thing they have. So, the stoke fear. It isn't like they have a solution for it.About the only solution democrats have offered is flooding the nation with unskilled illegal aliens.
     
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    Republicans and the right of center make policy on how they want people to be.

    Democrats and the left of center make policy how they actually are.

    Proof of the above is your statement, 'none of which would be a problem if people planned ahead from day one'.

    The operative word is "IF".

    You see, crank, that wishful thinking negates how people will actually behave. Many will plan, but some won't,and the number that won't are in the millions. No matter how much you pound the table, that number will always be there. So, republicans don't care if they suffer because 'they brought it on themselves', but Democrats understand that the human race is comprised of people with talent and wisdom, and people without talent and wisdom, and if God or providence or nature didn't endow some with the wisdom and talent to 'think ahead', should they be punished?

    Republicans say yes

    Democrats say no.

    That is the difference between Republicans and Democrats.

    Now dems don't want to lavishly reward the untalented and lacking wisdom, just enough to keep from starving and have essentials to live. But repubs are even against that much. They want a libertarian dog-eat-dog-I-got-mine-and-screw-you world.

    Only the voters will decide what kind of society they want to live in.

    But, what good is democracy if you can't accept the outcome of the election, if it doesn't go your way?
     
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    I am not so sure that Medicare Advantage plans were sold as improving medical outcomes, but they do offer customers a choice that can save them a fair amount of money if they so desire.

    Choice is a good thing in my book.
     
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    Ronald Reagan, I believe, was the last pres to do something to shore up SS.
     
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    They want old people to die so they don't use tax payer funded services. Democrats seem to consider fetuses and old people to be useless so they discard them like yesterday's trash.
     
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    Just to clarify, they don't want every American gay. Some prefer trans or queer. Some even bisexual.
    But I guess the point really is, NO MORE Heterosexuals. That's probable better. /s
     
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    We want the elderly to starve to death, so we can take their taxable inheritence and spend it on PBS and Pelosi's statue in front of the Capital building
     
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    Why do Democrats want Social Security to go bankrupt?

    They don't!

    Anyway, I was under the impression that under Biden SS insolvency was pushed back from 2035 to 2039???
     
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    The privatized medicare provides more benefits than plain old medicare.
     
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    First of all, no, no they don't.

    Second of all, social security can't go bankrupt. Bankruptcy is a legal term that doesn't apply. But using it in the common vernacular to mean social security will run out of money, that's not going to happen either.

    https://www.forbes.com/advisor/retirement/social-security-bankrupt/

    So given this what happens if we do NOTHING, the real question becomes why are the republican "solutions" to this non-existent problem so extreme? It's because they want to do away with it and privatize it so their buddies can make money off of it, that's why. Is that really the right answer? Most Americans have said no and keep saying no, so I guess not.
     
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    1) What kind of world do you come from where planning ahead means playing the stock market? Certainly not the working class one I inhabited as a youngster. For us commoners, it means putting aside money from day one - any amount will do. It means buying property as early as possible (no matter how cheap) and paying it off as soon as possible. It means establishing and maintaining strong family ties - where every member also plans ahead, so when support is needed, there is always someone who can lend a hand/housing etc. That's the way poor folk do it, but of course there will be plenty of rich folk who play the stock market instead.

    2) You're talking to a Lefty, my Dude. I have zero issue with taxes.
     
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    Start treating it as the precious resource it is, and screen every applicant for 'self-inflicted poverty'. Applicants should go through the same screening process as for mortgages. What is their financial behaviour history? How stable are they? What is their savings history ($5 a week saved is obviously better than spending that $5 on beer)? Etc etc. This will immediately cut out all the non-genuine applicants, thus preserving resources for the genuine. It will also eliminate the bad habits arising out of assumptions of Govt support.
     
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    That smarted, didn't it :p

    Bang on target!
     
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    I'd suggest that one gets what one trolls for, irony is on display^. :)
     
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    All for good purpose!

    You want your massive underclass as dependent as possible, after all. Best way to ensure they get there is actually to remove fear, ironically. Convince them that they needn't strive ... that Daddy Govt has their back.

    The fear comes in via the terror of Daddy Govt being replaced by one which will treat you like a grown adult.
     
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    Haha .. calling me a troll now. Maybe you want to put a little ointment on that ouchy?
     
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    Will it make you feel better? LMK.. :)
     

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