Mom shows them what they need to see

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    But their gender identity doesn't change. They already identified as that gender before any surgery. Even if you are against the surgery, their identity hasn't changed. They still have the same way. They will still identify the same way even if the government tells them they can't get treatment.
     
  2. ToughTalk

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    If they are not transitioning...they wouldn't be classified as "trans"...lol. English 1010.

    This is you having a temper tantrum. It certainly isn't a counterpoint.

    It absolutely is. Otherwise it wouldn't require a transition.

    You haven't been able to separate sexual preference from the pride flag.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    The identity isn't transitioning. Otherwise they were never trans.


    White flag accepted.


    Name one trans person who wasn't trans until after surgery. Go ahead.



    No, I said the pride flag covers MORE than just sexual preference (which it objectively does), and that attraction and sexualization are two different things.
     
  4. ToughTalk

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    Since they are trying to change their sexual identity from what they were born as, they are...transitioning.

    You and the other guy still haven't been able to separate sex from the pride flag.

    Once you've decided to try and identify as the opposite sex to what you were born. You are trans. You are forever trying to attempt to transition to the opposite gender. Doesn't stop. Even with the surgery.

    Mmmmm...not really. No chief. The entire purpose of the flag is about sex. It has no place in a public school.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    You have obviously never talked to a trans person. They aren't trying to "transition" their sexual identity. Touch grass. Meet a trans person. Learn something. And you still didn't address anything I said.

    I've done so several times. The fact that you want to sexualize every LGBTQ person you meet is not my problem.

    Today is the day you learned that the word "sex" can refer to either a physical activity or to biological sex. Congrats. You learned something.

    Sex has been taught in public schools since the 50s. And, no, the entire purpose of the flag is not about having sex.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    It is not my opinion that men have a penis and testicles.

    It is also not my opinion that women have a vagina and ovaries
     
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    I wasn’t even thinking about the surgery. My point is…just claiming I’m a woman doesn’t make me one.
     
  8. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Here's the entire post before you dishonestly tried to change the context by leaving out keywording...


    Even if the video is fake the problem is it should be real because the flags they're putting up and indoctrinating kids with in public schools are real
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    It sounds like you are one of those black folks.

    Would you feel like it was racist if they made a Caucasian heritage month?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I recognize that you believe that to be true and respect your opinion. I cannot speak for how people feel when they see that particular symbol, but can tell you that the symbol is not necessary to make students feel comfortable.

    While you and I may agree with displaying this symbol, we would also have to accept displaying other symbols that represents one individuals beliefs. It is reasonable to object to teachers using their influence to push their personal beliefs.
     
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    Trans people have a mental disorder. I mean we are discussing people who cannot come to terms with how they are born and are trying to desperately TRANSITION from it. "meet a TRANS person." lol. Go look up the meaning of the word 'trans'.

    The entire difference between a pride parade and a christmas parade is that one is celebrating SEXUAL PREFERENCE and the other is celebrating a religious holiday. Probably why they all dress like that huh?
    See a difference here?
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    The pride flag isn't celebrating males and females...that's not what it's doing, chief. It's not celebrating the reality of boys and girls. It represents the LGBT community. Lesbians...gays...biSEXUAL and Trans community.

    I don't mind sex being taught in school. We don't need flags celebrating some people's chosen sexual behaviour.
     
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    No one said it's necessary. Plenty of stuff in a classroom is not necessary, but is helpful. Engaging books, smartboards, and access to non-disruptive fidget toys aren't necessary for learning, either, but they make it much easier for many kids. Feeling seen and safe also makes learning easier, and the flag helps with that.

    I agree it's reasonable to object to that. But I've asked multiple times what you actually mean by it, and you haven't explained it. It appears that merely displaying a symbol is "pushing beliefs" on students. Traditional wedding pictures (like the one my wife has on her desk from our wedding) would be pushing heteronormativity, wouldn't they? The US flag pushes patriotism, doesn't it? There are recycling posters around the school. Does that mean the school is pushing anthropic climate change?
     
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    I also noticed the angry diversion tactics she uses to make you the topic. Its not worth chasing.
     
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    I did give you examples. A teacher believes that LGBTQs are an abomination and will burn for an eternity. Are we still on board with that message in the classroom?
     
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    So after posting a fake thread you are now trying to say a flag that means tolerance is indoctrinating children.

    Ok

    You have been awfully quiet about your kind using taxpayer money to fund religious schools which exist only to indoctrinate.
     
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    That literal message on a poster or coming out of their mouth? No. That message in the form of the existence of a Bible sitting on their desk? Yeah, that's fine. Details and context are important. One makes the classroom hostile to particular students. The other doesn't. What about those other symbols I mentioned, though. Are they not also pushing beliefs?
     
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    Confederate flag ok by you?
     
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    Why would a rainbow flag be in a classroom, what purpose does it serve? Is there such a thing as a straight pride flag?
     
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    It’s you guys who cancelled Christmas and Easter and called them the holiday season and spring break.
     
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    You and I don't get to decide what is hostile once the practice is accepted.
     
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    Are you kidding, you expect classrooms to be just sterile white walls?
     
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    We aren’t so insecure or flamboyant to need one.
     
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    Would you have a problem with a white pride parade? If so, why?
     
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    Is this a serious post? My classrooms had maps on the walls, student artwork, etc. I’m guessing you don’t think schools have anything to put on the walls except rainbow flags.
     
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    Again, are you kidding.
     

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