Under Biden we have had the worst foreign policy in history.

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  1. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

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    Meanwhile, no American service members have died in Ukraine, and none are dying in Afghanistan. When his term is over, he might as well be the POTUS presiding over the fewest combat-related deaths of American troops abroad.

    It doesn't matter, though, the Trumpers will hate him anyway and call him a war monger. It's only feelings, not data, that matter in their world.
     
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    Bidens so stupid he thinks a trade of 5 Americans for 5 Iranians with a bonus of 6billion dollars for the Iranians is a good deal
     
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    So Biden is as bad as Trump?
     
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    ZTE is a global company. Yes, there are sanctions in place against ZTE on its imports of cell phones and wireless technology, but they have business operations in Taiwan, Brazil, India, Germany, and a few other places, along with its subsidiaries.
     
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    Biden is letting China build a $2.4 billion dollar battery plant in Michigan. When the story first broke about a year ago the idea was that all the spies, sorry, I mean employees, would be Chinese nationals.

    Remind me again which countries write checks to the Bidens.
     
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    You are ignoring the fact that Biden is one of the ten greatest Presidents, and may be in the top five.
     
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    1. Whatever agreement was originally negotiated, Biden changed it to get a 911 photo op. If Biden could change the agreement, then why wouldn’t Biden continue to change the agreement?

    2. The $80 billion in military equipment is fake news? What dollar amount did CNN put on it?

    3. Biden just gave $6 billion to a terrorist country that shouts death to America and Israel.
     
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    1. Trump said Biden couldn't change the agreement. Even if he could, you are still criticizing him for following through on Trump's plan.
    2. You disregard how much of the equipment was rendered inoperable.
    3. ?
     
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    Oh, hell no. Trump tried to steal an election. That makes him worse. They may be just as bad as each other when it comes to Afghanistan, but that's all you have. And at least Biden isn't licking Putin's boots.
     
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    So only on the issue on foreign policy, Biden is worse than Trump?

    Oh, and, Trump did steal an election. Just ask Hillary!
     
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    Trump did not aid and abet our enemies. How funny the whole screwed up Afghanistan withdraw was best thing Biden pulled off to the left... but some bad thing Trump did.... which side of the fence are you on today?

    "the whole "$80 billion in military equipment" is fake news" Totally proven many times over... even by fake CNN. now I see why you post such off the wall stuff...
     
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    Oh, hell no, Trump was way, way worse. The best argument you have is that they were the same on Afghanistan. That's it.
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    Trump negotiated the surrender to the Taliban and bragged about how it would result in the fall of our allies . . . while also negotiating the release of thousands of Taliban soldiers. Why do you think that the Taliban are allies?
     
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    American soldiers did die under Biden in Afghanistan.
     
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    He did change the agreement by staying longer than the agreement planned so that was obviously wrong wasn’t it
     
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    So bombing Syria while Russia was there was licking putins boots? Putin was so scared of Trump he waited for him to leave to attack Ukraine
     
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    Interesting..... please show us the Biden surrender deal to the Taliban.... it is not the same as what the Trump peace deal was.
     
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    Trump's entire approach to Ukraine has been, from the beginning, licking Putin's boots. And no one is dumb enough to think that Putin was in any way scared of Trump. You could lobotomize a pet rock and it still wouldn't be dumb enough to believe that. Trump defended Putin's previous invasion and said he would respond the the current invasion by giving up Ukrainian land to Russia. Trump is Putin's little bitch boy.
     
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    Biden struck no such deal. Trump did. Read.
     
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    Hillary made two off-hand comments: one saying she won the popular vote (which she did) and another idiotic claim that we'll never knew who won that election. This was all after she had conceded. Unlike Trump, she never tried to steal an election.
     
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    Allies?.....
    Why did Trump threaten do blow the terrorist and his family off the earth if they killed any Americans, which resulted in no Americans death in the last 18 months until Biden released the prisoners from the Bagram airbase that immediately turned around and killed 13 Americans... The Trump never claimed the Taliban was an ally at all...
     
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    Then stop babbling and show us the Biden deal with the Taliban.... We can all read and make or decision of what Biden worked out with the Taliban...

    POST THE BIDEN PEACE DEAL WITH THE TALIBAN.
     
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    So he did steal one election and tried to steal another. The best part of the discussion is that it is about who is worse; not about who is great. These are all awful people.
     

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