Biden is creating a new White House office focused on gun violence prevention

smh most hoplophobes pretend that statistics that are not accurate should control the discussion

 

Like I said, it's your backside if caught.

 

For those who abide by the law, I have no issue.

 

There is. Felons and criminals do not have to register as it is against their 5th amendment rights to not incriminate themselves. So don’t have to register and cannot be penalized for not registering. So in the end, only people who were already law abiding citizens will be taking part, while felons and criminals do not have to and cannot be punished for not having done so.

“As with many other 5th amendment cases, felons and others prohibited from possessing firearms could not be compelled to incriminate themselves through registration.[3][4] The National Firearms Act was amended after Haynes to make it apply only to those who could lawfully possess a firearm.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States#:~:text=As with many other 5th,could lawfully possess a firearm.

 

while felons and criminals do not have to and cannot be punished for not having done so.
You mean like Hunter Biden.

 

Once a convicted felon, no he would not have to register any guns.

Personally, I want that question he is charged with lying about to go away, and I hope it gets to the Supreme Court so they can rule on it(hopefully in favor of not being allowed on the form 4473).

 

Yeah a felon can't own a firearm, if they do, they are in trouble.

https://thelawdictionary.org/articl...the Gun Control Act,his or her firearm rights.
Since the Gun Control Act was passed in 1968, anyone convicted of a felony – whether or not it involved violence – loses his or her firearm rights.

 

A reasonable question. Things to consider-

America is a relatively young and rapidly changing nation. Older nations have developed long standing cultures of responsibility- respect for for elders, for the wisdom of those most competent, and for learning instead of assuming you know everything. I can't apologize for that, nobody planned it. Hopefully- if we can put a lid on the current trend of thinking stupidity and freedom are the same thing... we will grow out of it.

America also is a nation that had to fight many times to exist. One that had to win it's own safety from things like the indian wars in the west, and learn to feed itself through hunting before agriculture and animal production was developed. In the west, the civilization, and the law- are substantially newer than the nation itself. The "wild west" where effective law was almost non-existent was only about 150 years back.

There's nothing wrong with firearms; they are a tool- they are used for providing food, for defense, for sport and competition. For example, I used to enjoy long-range target shooting, like 1000 yards. It's a challenging sport. Can't anymore due to an eye issue; vision's not good enough for that. Of course anything that has to potential to do serious harm deserves serious respect- and training. If you don't know, you shouldn't touch. What's really wrong is not the weapons people use, but the people who would use weapons- any weapon- for violence, crime, or for that matter carelessly. We are reluctant to call out the violent people, for some reason.

People have mixed motivations. We tell ourselves we are being kind or generous sometimes when we protect people from consequences. There's a place for that, but sometimes it only exaggerates problems. I think crime is one of those areas; we have far too lenient a system for the entry level criminals who soon think they can do anything and get away with it. This is one of the things with guns. When we transfer the responsibility from the person to the weapon, we help promote the idea that the gun is the criminal. Bad idea.

America still has a lot of growing up to do.

 

Our real issue isn't the old people; that's quite rare. It's the younger generations who have not been instilled with the values of personal responsibility. They will allow their emotional reactions to over-rule their judgment and drive their conduct. This is cultural- comes mostly from growing up in unstable environments, never being taught or seeing models of personal responsibility. It's selfish of course, thinking that if the world displeases you violence is appropriate. But if people around you, especially those in roles of leadership ignore the rules without consequence, then there are no rules, and people raised in those environments will think and behave that way.

The world's best system of behavior control is known as "Self regulation", meaning you have sound standards and you hold yourself to them.
While we can say on one hand there should be equality between people, this is a condition that will be created by each person on their own, and that is their personal responsibility. We make ourselves better or worse people, more or less valuable people, by the values we hold dear, and the choices we make. Recognizing the differences in people that they themselves have chosen is not discrimination or inequality, but some people want to call it that. Usually- those who want to benefit from it.

The solution to all our "issue" problems is contained in the way we think, and in that respect, there is a lot of work to be done- and not enough people working on it. I think this is true world-wide, but is more prevalent in some places than others, certainly in the USA.

 

E-commerce is really tricky. That is why I used the internet. Firearm purchases are legal via the Internet with some situations requiring a federal background check and other situations not to. BTW, online gun sales are the biggest market among purchasing firearms, legally but it also depends on the type of firearm. Read the link below to further educate yourself.

https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/background-checks/interstate-online-gun-sales/

 

the key word here is "transfer" which does not mean selling. The Online issue is not exactly intrastate or interstate commerce. If a person does purchase a firearm on the internet, and the other person is not required to perform a background check, then the transfer will happen with another company or individual who will transport the firearm and use the FFL license to do so, which makes it legal.

 

It is illegal for a felon to own a gun. However, if they do, they do not have to register it and cannot get in any trouble for having not done so making the registration mostly useless, and wouldn’t deter crime anyways.

 

The supreme court is on my side.
Can you tell us an actual benefit to registration-so far I am seeing absolutely nothing.

 

Do you think that you can send someone a firearm through the mails or even UPS across state lines and not be in violation of federal laws. I have bought at least a dozen firearms on the net and in every case I had to have the firearm delivered to an FFL holder where I completed the paperwork and background check. EVerytime I Shipped a firearm-either for warranty work or custom work I had to declare it and note it was going to a licensed dealer/manufacturer with proof thereof

 

in other words no LEGAL transfers between unlicensed individuals across state lines. as I said

 

The supreme court is on my side.
Tell yourself anything you like to hear.

 

It is illegal for a felon to own a gun. However, if they do
Again, Hunter Biden was just indicted for such an incident.

 

so tell me how do you think your pro registration views align with the court, the constitution and every pro gun rights organization out there

 

Naw, I think they know exactly what the problem is, but they can't go on their gun ban tirade if they admit that the problem isn't guns.

Stopping violent crimes isn't the objective. It never has been. Prohibiting gun ownership is the objective. Look how bad they ****ed things up with their version of "police reform". They've yet to admit that their plan was a complete clusterfuck, but rather blame guns.

Look how Biden's campaign website said duck hunters are only allowed three rounds in their shotgun, and that "ducks are better protected than our children ". They know it's horseshit. They also know that their followers are too stupid to know it's horseshit.

 

You said the Supreme Court is on your side about registration. That statement couldn't be any more incorrect, once again you have wasted time and bandwidth over false assertions.

 

Does congress have any legislative authority to enact a gun registration law?

 

Show us how he's incorrect.

 

As long as the proper paperwork is filled out, then yes generally

 

Does the constitution grant any legislative power to congress that would permit making a gun registration law?

 

I've already provided link about felons not allowed to have firearms.