Biden is creating a new White House office focused on gun violence prevention

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    AHA... you've moved the goalpost to the few guns the criminals current own. lol
    So what that they own some guns. It's not as if they want to hold on to them when they committed a crime with them.
    And nobody want's a gun that's hot. They'll rotate out of business fast enough.
     
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    Emphasis mine is a deal breaker.
     
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    Moved? Nope. That's the question I've been asking all along. Do you think that criminals will register their guns? That's what I asked initially.
     
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    No.
    Do you think criminals will throw guns away to never be found, if the guns they used can get linked to the crimes they committed?
     
  5. Chickpea

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    So we at least agree that criminals won't register their guns.
    No, I don't think they will dispose of their guns. How would this "linking" occur?
     
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    Biden did attempt to reclassify to a schedule 3, not sure if it went anywhere.
     
  7. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    True, but that's because it hasn't been pursued since the anti-gunners poo-poo'ed it.

    It totally wasn't what they want because it doesn't involve making guns harder, if not impossible to own.
     
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    It isn’t petty semantics. We were discussing why registration means jack(felons and criminals do not have to register) and you decided to throw in Hunter, falsely claiming he was charged for a crime he was not, in hopes you could “win” something.
     
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    again, As I noted, your scenario is completely detached from reality.
     
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    And we agree they will have a hard time buying new guns.

    You can match a bullet that got shot, with the gun that shot the bullet.
    And I would wager that a criminal will not want the bullets he shot to be traced to it's own gun.

    That criminal A undoubtingly wants to get rid of it. That criminal A will not want some unknown criminal B to have it, by selling it for some lousy bucks. If criminal B would get caught, than criminal B could make a sweet deal and sell out who criminal A is to get himself a lesser sentence.
     
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    you are showing me, not
     
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    are you aware of the fact that almost every criminal who is armed either stole the gun or obtained the gun from someone else who knew he is a criminal? criminals buying guns from private sellers they don't know is extremely rare
     
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    Yes, a blog tracking uses of impro guns as they make the news has an entire section dedicated solely to your nation because the articles are so prevalent.

    Entrapment? That site isn't entrapment, its listing news articles showing impro guns in the news. You gonna visit the BBC for a bit of chat too then?
    Do you even know what entrapment means?

    Wow its like I made that claim!! Except I didn't. Rather nice straw-person you have there, how quixotic of you. I like its fancy hat.
    You said guns were under control in your nation: The test revealed that's a lie. :(
     
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    Right...because black markets don't exist. And we've always been at war with Easasia.
    What connects him to the gun? Who even knows he has a gun?
    Why would criminal A sell his gun to criminal B?
     
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    This is why we won't compromise with you people.
     
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    You mean the gun you demand be locked up inoperable and stored separately from locked up ammunition? The gun you bar the keeping and bearing of?
    Yes, that one won't be there. Hence why we won't accept that paradigm of laws you so desperately want for a nation not your own.

    Further: That's not what DGU stats say. DGU stats collected by a pro gun control outlet.
    Stay mad about it though.
     
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    Its not a perceived loss. Its an actual loss.
     
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    Felons cannot own firearms, registration is effing moot at that point. !!!!
     
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    No murdering people or committing a crime with a firearm.

    Liability for your backstop, 100%, whether you're a cop or a normie. Shoot the wrong person and the right person? Prison.
    Deterrent: Everyone who can be is armed, that target is hardened.
     
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    Which is why none of us normal folk will agree to be disarmed. Because the criminals won't be, and you admit violence is the word of the day. I prefer to be able to defend myself and my family, not be a disarmed victim waiting to happen.
     
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    Rico case against the gang, affiliates are those with the tattoos or other expressions of affiliation with the org.

    You can blame reagan for closing the insane asylums and dumping the crazies on the strett.
     
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    Particularly one that loses one then has the ****ing audacity to demand we play hands across America to find it.
     
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    We agree the cops are unable or unwilling to protect us. What's more: Its not their legal duty to protect ANYONE. EVER.

    So who is your only line of reliable defense then? Yourself.

    IDK about you, but I ain't Bruce Lee and I'm not about to engage in fisticuffs with some regard all hopped up on speed kicking my door in. I'm going to shoot him until he stops moving.
     
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    Yes, be friendly and make others feel they are important.
    The self inflicted injuries / deaths are a product of mental unhealth. So again.......that part needs a lot more attention. Some suicides cannot be prevented, but many can and should be. The angst of sufferings from mental unhealth is torturous for those afflicted.[/QUOTE]
    Incorrect. Blatantly so. Homicides are about double what suicides are.
     
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    In order for a criminal to sell a gun on the black market, it first needs to buy one.
    And how can they buy one when all the guns get registerend, ey?

    huh?

    the used bullet
    The cops, if they catch the criminal. And than they can link the gun to the bullet.
    It's incriminating evidence and criminals want to get rid of that.
    And when they got rid of that, they need a new gun.

    So the fact that a criminal has a gun now that is not registerend, is just temporary.
     

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