And Yet People Defend Hamas

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  1. Esau

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    are you calling me a wandering jew?
     
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    So we disagree. No surprise broski.
     
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    You are 100% right. Europe /Americans involvement in Arab world is purely economical and controlling the world. I am the first one to admit this.

    It would be nice if Europe and America leave the S$$ hole country in Arab world.

    But guess what .. if we leave Arab world they wouldn’t live peacefully. We can bring every jews to EU and America , but that wouldn’t stop Muslim killing Muslims. Those Arabs will kill each other, they will flog their women, they will stone their daughter and take back their land to 5th century.

    And here is the things--- EU or Americans wouldn’t give a f$$$ if those Muslims would kill each other.. but the problem is their violent wouldn’t stay in Arab land only, they will walk, they will swim to western Europe.

    So at the end, we are there to protect western world and keep those Arabs not killing each other.
     
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    There is a difference between accidentally hitting civilians and actually knowingly targeting them. We also have never cut peoples heads off to broadcast. We are nowhere near the same as Hamas brutality
     
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    I know one thing. Those who applaud the beheading of babies and burning people alive are sick. There are no excuses for that.
     
  6. Esau

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    personally i dont see the difference between cutting off heads and blowing heads off. both are terrible. europeans frequently used blowing from the gun during their colonial empires. some muslim states are still at this stage in their devolopement it seems.

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    same as ppl who right messages of celebration on the shells that blow up civilian buildings. we have ppl like that in many societies in the west, most notably usa and israeli
     
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    “I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.” “He used the word ‘independent’ and ‘we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that’s pretty savvy.”
     
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    Actually , i have been to ME many times, and also in South East Asia. have you?

    it's really shame that you know nothing about last 1500 years of Muslim history. they have been killing each other long before European ever set foot in Arab land.
     
  10. Joe knows

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    Give references otherwise it’s just an opinion
     
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    As others have put it the people under the thumb of Israel have constantly been mistreated, forcefully dispersed/evicted from their homes, and have been in a constant state of ethnic genocide. This is just the dog biting back after being beaten for so long. People see the dog acting violent but, never the man beating the dog. If you're not going to look at the reasons for the act(s) you'll never understand the reason behind it.
     
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    That means that war is not the result of Israel or support for Israel. These savages will always find a reason to murder and rape.
     
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    That you can compare the two says a lot.
     
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    You got any links showing us heheading babes and raping grandmothers?
     
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    Again , you are right. European have done enough damage to the world. But that doesn’t mean you ignore what is Arabs are doing. I am with you to point finger to European, but you seems like, you want to condemn atrocities done by European, but the atrocities done by Arab, your answer is

    “Its a real shame that you have this negative and cyncial attitude. getting a strong impression you know very little about the arab world and muslims. you should travel to dubai or qatar, it may open your eyes”

    In another word , you blame me for all the killing Muslims are doing to each other.
     
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    Nope, haven't looked, not that it is relevant in any way. You missed my point completely. Everyone is waving the flag for their side instead of looking for real ways to solve problems. It is only going to perpetuate violence for generations. I was involved with fighting insurgents and extremists for 20 years, and it hasn't done a damn thing but kill a **** ton of people on both sides.

    I'm not saying what Hamas did was justified, not by a long shot, but this **** doesn't occur in a vacuum. There is a long history of back and forth violence with no real resolution. I'm not just talking about this new flashpoint, I'm talking about global events.
     
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    Thanks for confirming my suspicion
     
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    Indeed, it says that I know the wickedness of the two sides involved, which makes me the arbiter.
     
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    You want graphic footage of dismembered children from Palestine?

    That's just sick.
     
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    Do you not know of years and years of reports of Israeli troops and sometimes civilians shooting Palestinians in their homes, or bulldozing homes of Palestinians on Palestinian land where Palestinian people live? Don’t you know of Israeli troops abducting innocent Palestinians and torturing them to death? Don’t you know that Palestinians can’t legally leave their designated land/towns and that life is unbearable there due to “rationed” water, electricity, and curfews and freedom to move about for shopping or anything else? Don’t you know that some conscientious Jews in Israel are so outraged by this that they’ve formed several protest groups to oppose Zionism?
     
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    Yeahwell, think about this: all these outrages and problems in the M.E. is due to religion. Religion is the problem and it can’t be stopped.
     
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    Name them if it’s so easy
     
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    Missed the point again. Hamas is generating enough atrocity videos.
     
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    I did not know that. And I dont believe it coming from you.
     

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