And Yet People Defend Hamas

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  1. Kode

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    Europeans, like everyone else, have also been killing each other for thousands of years. Your point?
     
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    HIGHER EDUCATION IS A MORAL CESSPOOL: Academics and students show their moral superiority by applauding terrorism. 'There’s a serious question whether in its present form it actually benefits our society on whole.'

    'Students at @Columbia have signed a statement somehow even worse than the @Harvard one.'

    Time to make sure US funding of Universities isn't funding this kind of radicalism that glorifies the mass rape and massacre of the innocent.

    'If they can make you believe absurdities, they can make you commit atrocities. Higher education has been making its students believe absurdities for decades now.'

    The Public is Giving Up on Higher Ed. “Only 36 percent of Americans, Gallup found, have “a great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in higher ed. That’s down from 57 percent in 2015 — a drop of more than 20 percentage points in just eight years. . . . These should be terrifying data points for those of us who work in higher education — our compact with the public has been broken. But many of us have shrugged off the looming threat. Deep down, many of us think the numbers are skewed — whether by Republicans (they’re biased against us!), people without college degrees (they’re ignorant!), or an increasingly polarized population (the other side is nuts!). In short, it’s not our fault. This is wishful thinking. . . . There’s a more reasonable, if less guilt-assuaging, interpretation of this polling: Americans are waking up to the fact that our system of higher education is broken. The evidence is there for all to see.”

    'Broken: Financially, intellectually, and especially morally.'
     
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    I have not seen any defend Hamas. I have seen many defend the Palestinians.
     
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  4. Kode

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    YOU’RE CHITTING ME!!! You don’t know about that???? It has been in the press for about 50 years that I am personally aware of! Instead of judging me, why don’t you spend a little time LOOKING INTO IT?

    It’s all common knowledge.
     
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    You think Europeans didn't do the same thing in their colonial empires? They paraded pictures of Africans with severed limbs if they didn't meet quotas of rubber farming. It's a tactic used to scare and Europeans are well used in this strategy. Hamas is using tactics that Europeans used in the region.
     
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    Desperate repressed people tend to do desperate and often heinous things. I don't find this all that surprising. Terrible but not surprising.
     
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    European/american armies even rape eachother in their own barracks. There have been many internal lawsuits recently! Imagine what they do to the opps!

    Lord have mercy
     
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    Yeah, but the grew out of it. Hamas - not so much.
     
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    One other thing I find especially disturbing is Bibi warning Palestinians to leave or be bombed, while simultaneously not allowing them to leave.

    This is disturbing across the board.
     
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    The Colonization of the West (Or Killers in Our Midst).

    “What is there to say when the chant evolves — as it must — from ‘Death to Israel’ to ‘Gas the Jews, f*** the Jews?’ Well, sane people would say that calling for the destruction of an entire people is wrong. Progressives, whether elites safe in their ivory towers or purple-haired Antifa sympathizers in the streets, either make excuses or endorsements depending on their individual level of brazenness.”

    40 calibrations of the rape and massacre of Jewish civilians in Israel by Hamas Terrorists.
     
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    Yeah, not really. We hide our atrocities behind the legitimacy of government. For some reason we think if it is government killing people, it is ok. Burning down villages in Vietnam, overthrowing elected government in Iran, Bombing Baghdad to smithereens, killing tons of people with drones, often the wrong people, etc etc etc. Killing is killing. Nothing makes it legitimate.
     
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    Quite a tactic!! Look good while shooting fish in a barrel, only the “fish” are oppressed people who’ve been oppressed for over 50 years by being robbed, cheated, and killed.
     
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    Vietnam was fifty years ago. Iran nearly 75 years ago. We're talking about stuff that happened four DAYS AGO.
     
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    Indeed but we all know that Islam is chronologically a few centuries behind Christianity so in that sense it is carrying the same tradition as the abrahamic faith. To condemn hamas now you must condemn Europeans colonialism in Africa.

    The big question now is, are you willing to do that and at what cost?
     
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    Sometimes I think humans are the scourge of the earth and the best thing would be a thorough extinction event.
     
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    Oh. Yeah. So you think the US has changed?
     
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    real tough guys these Israelis lol
     
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    Just wait and see what Israel does to the Palestinian people not pledged to Hamas, who are trapped there right now. It won't be pretty.
     
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    Noooooo

    Buddha says no (about all humans being a scourge) but perhaps yes to the extinction bit
     
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    What I don’t get is why people with perfectly good, satisfying lives would leave the US to live in Israel. And why?…-to have an opportunity to cause or be part of some trouble. They call it “supporting my people” to make it sound honorable.
     
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    He also said “life is suffering”.
     
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    They generally go because of tribalism which has been recently encouraged by Obama.
     
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    I doubt they have free and fair elections, and I doubt they have 100% support. Same for Israel. I would not blame the civilians.
     
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    Yah only knows what indoctrination they've been victim to. Seemingly a mass cult thing but it was all meant to be.
     
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    My point is violence in Europe doesn’t justify violence in Arab land. I condemn violence in Europe as much as I condemn violence in Muslim world. If you can condemn violence. Atrocity, oppression in Europe, you should be able to condemn same thing in ME.
     
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