Biden to Gun Owners: You’ll Need an F-16 to Go Against the Government

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    comparing the USA to cherry picked nanny states is worthless. What exactly is your suggestion to curb violence which is mainly perpetrated by inner city black drug felons?
     
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    They like to ignore the fact that that makes up probably 80% of firearm homicides in the USA.

    What if we banned black people from having guns? Of course that would be unconstitutional and highly unfair to the ones who are law-abiding but it would certainly cut out a lot of gun crime..

    But then again of course it wouldn't because the ones who are committing the crimes are largely banned from owning them to begin with.

    So as always the solution from Democrats is to take the toys away from everyone in the classroom even though it's only a couple of bad apples misusing them.
     
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    So observing the US political scene from "down under" why do you suppose US liberals do not seek to repeal the 2nd Amendment?
     
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    It is already been explained to you what would be required to eliminate the second amendment and the fact of the matter is is that will remain nothing more than a progressive wet dream and it will never happen here in reality in the United States of America.

    It doesn't matter how badly you or even tons of us liberals want it to happen..... Our guns and our second amendment are going nowhere
     
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    George III to Gun Owners: You'll Need a 50-Gun Ship of the Line to Go Against the Government

    Would Nurse Jill kindly collect the crazy old man barking at the gun owners....:roll:
     
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  6. hawgsalot

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    Well that settles it lol. Might call brain dead and tell him to quit saying it since you have proclaimed you don't see it.
     
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    So you can't or won't answer again? Ok just say that.
     
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  8. Think for myself

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    “Inner city black felons”
     
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    “Progressive wet dream”
     
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    Trump supporters must be that almost a thousand went to jail over their false accusations.
     
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    So still can't answer what they were doing that they failed at? Got it just say you don't know or tell us what they didn't achieve that they were out to do?
     
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    In fact, the militaries of unpopular modern nation states have become very vulnerable to citizens using using light weapons and their cheap effective high tech toys.

    KIA shoots down junta fighter jet in northern Shan

    The Kachin Independence Army (KIA) shot down a Myanmar military junta fighter jet at noon on Tuesday as it was conducting air strikes in Nampaka Village, Kutkai Township, northern Shan State, KIA information officer Colonel Naw Bu confirmed to The Irrawaddy.


    Junta fighter jets during a military drill. / Junta website

    The KIA and its allies have been attempting to seize a key base in Kutkai since the last week of December. On Jan. 3, the KIA shot down a military transport helicopter flying to a frontline base in Kachin’s Waingmaw Township, killing six military personnel.

    One more military battalion HQ raises white flag in Rakhine

    Defeated troops from the regime’s Light Infantry Battalion 539 and their family members are led away by Arakan Army troops in Kyauktaw Township on Tuesday. / Western News

    The entire military Light Infantry Battalion 539, including family members, surrendered to ethnic Rakhine armed group the Arakan Army on Tuesday after being besieged in Kyauktaw Township, Rakhine State, according to locals.

    THE IRRAWADDY, Myanmar Junta Loses Battalion HQ, Fighter Jet, Hundreds of Troops in Two Days, By The Irrawaddy January 17, 2024.
    https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/war-...ghter-jet-hundreds-of-troops-in-two-days.html


    'We killed many … drones are our air force': Myanmar's ...
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    3 days ago — In the past two months, more than 400 Myanmar army soldiers have fled across the border to the Indian state of Mizoram, following rebel attacks.

    Soldiers Surrender, Bases Fall and a Powerful Army No ...
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    Dec 13, 2023 — The Myanmar military's enemies are making unprecedented gains, capturing outposts, bases and to
     

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    Yet most of the people who actually pulled back the barricades have not been identified.
     
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    You seem to be unaware of a potential massive moral failure in confiscating a weapon from anyone. If one takes a weapon from another, and then some event happens in which that person legitimately needs that weapon to defend themselves, then the original taker (or preventer of acquisition in the first place) of that weapon has committed a grave injustice toward that defenseless person.

    So if a bureaucrat confiscated (or prevented acquisition of) weapons in Ukraine or Israel prior to the attacks there, then in that very moment in which a Ukrainian or Israeli needed a weapon to defend themselves from a foreign invader, that bureaucrat has committed a very serious, fundamental human rights violation against that defenseless person.

    I'm not seeing, in general, a recognition of this concept by a large portion of people pushing gun control measures. It seems they are just willing to ignore the fact that a situation could develop any day, in which they would be responsible for rendering people defenseless, when they didn't have to be.
     
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    democrats are worried that law and order programs will cause their woke followers to scream racism. Example. Richmond VA, supported by the GOP and the NRA, started sending felons caught with firearms to the US Attorney for federal prosecution rather than the county DA. this meant felons caught with guns often received 5-10 years of federal time rather than the 1-2 years state courts were giving (which often meant 4-8 months, federal time does not have big reductions for "good behavior"). The ACLU, NAACP and other liberal groups started howling that this was racist because most of the felons caught were black.
     
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    over half the murders are committed by blacks=mainly black males between the ages of 14 and 40. that means about 3% of the population commits 50% of the murders. 40% of black males have a felony record when they die.
     
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    You know they say it's racist to point out such obvious things but here's something that should be obvious to them.....

    If they quit behaving that way no one would be able to point it out !

    But you see it's not the people who are the problem that are the problem..... It's the people pointing out the problem..... Jesus wept
     
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    Yeah, there’s a pretty ugly undertone to your statement
     
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    I do those that were sentenced were crying their way into prison. !!!
    Keep ignoring reality.
     
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    You have such verification, and as if it means something.
     
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    Violent criminals are an insignificant problem until the general public is disarmed.

    Even after six years under the Dunblane Gun Ban all crime in the UK, including gun crime was soared.

    "England and Wales have the highest crime rate among the world's leading economies, according to a new report by the United Nations.

    The survey, which is likely to prove embarrassing to David Blunkett, the Home Secretary. shows that people are more likely to be mugged, burgled, robbed or assaulted here than in America, Germany, Russia, South Africa or any other of the world's 20 largest nations."
    The Daily Telegraph, England has worst crime rate in world, By David Bamber, 12/1/2002.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1414855/England-has-worst-crime-rate-in-world.html

    Gun control schemes serve only to empower criminals. Gun control is irrational and dangerous.
     
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    ah yes, truth is racist to the woke left. the real ugly overtone is that democrats worry more about being called "racist" than cracking down on the felons who prey mainly on other blacks
     
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    On this forum shortly after the riots I predicted that the activists who pulled the barricades away would be publicly identified within a week.
    I was wrong. Think.
     
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    Facts can have ugly undertones.
     
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    Your odd rant has nothing to do with anything I said
     
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