Trump ordered to pay over $350M for business fraud

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Patricio Da Silva, Feb 16, 2024.

  1. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    THe taxpayers were defrauded by this fake trial with no jury and no bank claiming to be defrauded.
    At least you got one right.
     
    AFM likes this.
  2. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,671
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They are fiduciarily responsible to their customers and shareholders. The made a lot of money for them. There was no fraud.
     
  3. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,671
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yup. The taxpayers of New York will have to pay for this travesty perpetrated by the “Get Trumpers”. The state of New York has been permanently damaged. As Bill posted the Governor of New York is now doing damage control.
     
  4. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    13,647
    Likes Received:
    17,458
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I've already answered the same questions you keep asking.

    Trump broke the law.

    And like any citizen who exceeds the speed limit and is caught by the police, he must pay a fine.

    The fine is proportional to the size of the offence.

    What else about what I've just written escapes you?
     
    WalterSobchak and cd8ed like this.
  5. The Ant

    The Ant Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2021
    Messages:
    3,675
    Likes Received:
    4,564
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Keep on repeating that MAGA mantra…your boss would be so proud of you…oh, and don’t forget to increase your tithing to him this month…he’s got some serious bills to cover now…!

    Now excuse me…I’m very busy copying all these “it’ll be overturned on appeal” posts for use later, just in case they’re deleted soon…
     
    WalterSobchak and cd8ed like this.
  6. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2015
    Messages:
    31,455
    Likes Received:
    34,888
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your argument is that if I drive at 120 mph down the Freeway, and get lucky enough not to kill someone or damage property - that I should not
    be charged with speeding. I don't think you understand how the law works.
     
    bx4, WalterSobchak and cd8ed like this.
  7. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    With a corrupt judge who denied a jury trial, then decided Mar a lago was only worth 18 million when 11,000 sq ft Palm beach mansions go for 40 million.
    But this idiot decided a 62,000 sq ft beach front property on 17 acres in palm beach is only worth 18? Lots on that same road go for 150 million just for the dirt.

    NY is a farce.
     
  8. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    17,280
    Likes Received:
    9,598
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Wait, you think there wasn’t a playoff in this case ?

    The state tried him on behalf of the banks and the state who was denied taxes based on these valuations.

    Just WOW
     
    WalterSobchak likes this.
  9. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    17,280
    Likes Received:
    9,598
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Tell me you don't know what this case was, without telling you don't know what this case was
     
    Nemesis, WalterSobchak and cd8ed like this.
  10. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nope, your argument is, if my car can go 120 mph, then I should be charged because it can.
    Not because you did it.

    To have defrauded someone, you have to commit fraud first.
    When no banks say they were defrauded, no judge gets to say otherwise less he wants his case overturned.
    Which is what will happen here.
     
  11. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So you are one of those 15%ers who thinks commercial property owners tells the tax assessors office how much their property is worth for tax value?
    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Only in the minds of the left could something like that be claimed.

    Well at least we know who has never purchased a house before.
    Still living at home are ya. lol
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2024
  12. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    17,167
    Likes Received:
    9,481
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He’s not even tried one case. I doubt that he would be very knowledgeable about the statute at issue.
     
    WalterSobchak likes this.
  13. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    17,167
    Likes Received:
    9,481
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Read the judgment, my trumpy friends. I don’t think anyone will be making your arguments on appeal.
     
    WalterSobchak and cd8ed like this.
  14. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,671
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump broke no laws. His valuations were submitted with a disclaimer stating that DB is encouraged to do their own valuation which they as fiduciaries would have done regardless.
     
  15. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,671
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I am posting the statements of DB. I do not work for DB.
     
  16. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,671
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    New York is a farce. People will be leaving at an increasing rate. As Bill posted the Gov of New York is in damage control mode to try to convince people and businesses to stay.

    I saw one home on the intercostal on a fairly small lot at ~ $187M.
     
  17. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,671
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Listen to his ~ 5 minute video above.
     
  18. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,901
    Likes Received:
    15,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump wasn't convicted of violating a law.
     
    AFM likes this.
  19. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,901
    Likes Received:
    15,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How did they lose the money?
     
    AFM likes this.
  20. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    All they will be left with is millions of non tax paying illegals.
    Serves then right.
    Bye bye NY.
     
    AFM and Wild Bill Kelsoe like this.
  21. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    93,093
    Likes Received:
    74,410
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Are you trolling? There was huge number of identified false statements entered into the court filings
     
    Statistikhengst and cd8ed like this.
  22. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,901
    Likes Received:
    15,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, it isn't anywhere near the same thing...lol
     
  23. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    93,093
    Likes Received:
    74,410
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Read the judgement
     
  24. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,901
    Likes Received:
    15,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You can't tell us?...lol
     
    AFM likes this.
  25. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    93,093
    Likes Received:
    74,410
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Not up to the bank - it is up to the person submitting the claim to ensure all the details are correct

    Mine tink it ‘mazing that the fault is “everyone BUT Donald Trump”
     
    Statistikhengst and The Ant like this.

Share This Page