Avdiivka, Longtime Stronghold for Ukraine, Falls to Russians

Thanks for the refresher on Russian propaganda and disinformation.

 

Indeed. Z state propaganda is pretty boring.

 

What dumb propaganda. It shows Ukrainians doing an orderly fighting withdrawal. Yet the Russian propaganda claims they are "shattered" which is an old term for combat ineffective. That is obviously not true.

 

There's little doubt western capitalists will fund Guerilla Warfare in Ukraine once the current SMO ends, and it will likely depend heavily on some real Nazi's for its success:

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/the-facts-on-de-nazifying-ukraine/

"One of the volunteer paramilitary regiments at the forefront of the battle with Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine was a group called the Azov battalion, which was founded by members of two neo-Nazi groups.

"One of the group’s organizers, Andriy Biletsky, is a white supremacist, who in 2014 wrote, 'The historic mission of our nation in this critical moment is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival. A crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen.'"

 

No one does propaganda like like Americans getting rich from provoking wars on the opposite side of the planet:

https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/wgtgma5kj69pbpndjr4wf6aayhrszm

"Recognizing that the war was provoked helps us to understand how to stop it. It doesn’t justify Russia’s invasion.

"A far better approach for Russia might have been to step up diplomacy with Europe and with the non-Western world to explain and oppose U.S. militarism and unilateralism.

"In fact, the relentless U.S. push to expand NATO is widely opposed throughout the world, so Russian diplomacy rather than war would likely have been effective."

 

600,000 Dead Ukrainians to defend a small pile of bricks .. Crazy stuff aye mate

 

Nothing is free Jack -- you should know that by now .... Yes ?

 

"Cheer Team" you say Zoomer ? The Azov Nazi Cheer team never went back into the shadows .. jeering and catcalling .. and posting the most ridiculous propaganda. Got it all wrong, backwards and upside down Zoomie.

 

That was in 2014 Friend .. a civil war that raged for a long time .. did you miss the memo ?

 

The SMO ends with RuZZfascists disintegration....process has started.

 

Cite this 600K dead Ukes gifty?...for the small pile of bricks?

This should be hilarious?....

 

The expansion of NATO was driven by urgent requests from Russia's neighbors.

 

". . . Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives everything its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.”
― Thomas Paine, The Crisis

 

Was that NATO training in action 'vet? Walking/running and leaving equipment behind...and then still getting an occasional bomb dropped on their heads in the middle of the night....that's an orderly withdrawal? Dang I'd hate to see a disorderly NATO withdrawal....oh wait....the goat herders in Afghanistan showed us that.

 

Speaking of goat herders Bill....How did the Soviets fair in Afstan back in the 80s?

I seem to recall some camel jockeys with a few Stingers brought down the Big Red Machine and destroyed the USSR?.....that sucks?

 

Clearly not true.

 

That's the latest in your series of false claims. Here's the full text of my #81.
The Russians lost the Ukraine war long ago. They now face a bigger, stronger, closer NATO that understands Russia for the thuggish outlaw state that it is. In Ukraine they have created hatred of Russia that will last for generations, regardless of the final territorial settlement. This makes likely the incorporation of Ukraine into the EU and then NATO.
The Ukrainian example will, over time, undermine the Putinist regime in Moscow.

 

The irony of you saying that I made false claims...lol... Your posting since the war began about the inevitable victory of the glorious Ukrainian forces is laughable.

I'm not objecting to your incorrect views, I'm simply pointing them out.

 

I have never claimed anything was inevitable, so that's another false claim. I still regard Ukrainian victory as likely, as I have for some time.
Meanwhile, in this exchange, your claim about my #81 stands exposed as false.

 

Now now jack, let's stop with this fantasy. "the ukraine" lost the war long ago, Russia is now fighting NATO using ukie troops. And NATO is losing. Before you tell us that the ukie troops don't compare with the big bad NATO boys.....spare me....NATO is full of obese blue-haired gender fluids and a bunch of girls. The ukie Nazis are getting pummeled, NATO's girls won't last 5 minutes. There ain't enough country boys in NATO anymore to make a difference...the dead weight of diversity will get them all killed.

 

I did Nazi that coming...

 

Let's see those obese NATO chick's with blue hair ....and "gender fluid" Bill?

NATO is losing?.....500k+ dead orcs , 1000 000+ with body parts missing ...with no boots on the ground...is losing...Bill?

I would be curious to see what kind of numbers ...winning...is like.?

 

In #81 you claimed that the Russians lost the Ukraine war long ago.

That's not simply false, it's silly.

 

Hardly.
NATO expansion was driven by the greed of western arms merchants and the corruption of Russia's neighbors' political elites:

https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/wgtgma5kj69pbpndjr4wf6aayhrszm

"The archives show irrefutably that the U.S. and German governments repeatedly promised to Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not move 'one inch eastward' when the Soviet Union disbanded the Warsaw Pact military alliance.

"Nonetheless, U.S. planning for NATO expansion began early in the 1990s, well before Vladimir Putin was Russia’s president."

 

Did you Nazi any snipers?

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/americas-collusion-with-neo-nazis/

"That the snipers who killed scores of protestors and policemen on Kiev’s Maidan Square in February 2014, thereby triggering a 'democratic revolution' that overthrew the elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, and brought to power a virulent anti-Russian, pro-American regime—it was neither democratic nor a revolution, but a violent coup unfolding in the streets with high-level support—were sent not by Yanukovych, as is still widely reported, but instead almost certainly by the neofascist organization Right Sector and its co-conspirators."