Israel Shooting Those Waiting for Food Aid

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    Israel does not blockade the Gaza strip. They inspect trucks and ships for war materials.
     
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    Israel's blockade of Gaza is war and has gone on continuously for decades.

    Israel doesn't even allow Gaza, a population rated as food insecure, from fishing its full waters of the Med. Going out to the deeper waters where more fish live is an act that Israel will punish with sinking the boats.

    You're having a really hard time understanding the conditions imposed by Israel and the fact that Israel has been constantly warring on Gaza - nonstop for a couple decades.
     
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    Israel is not blockading the Gaza Strip. Israel has never blockaded the Gaza Strip.

    Hostilities in Gaza were initiated by Hamas in 2007 and have continued ever since. Israel is defending its citizens.
     
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    Israel has not allowed ships to Gaza. Tell me where you got THAT idea. Also, Israel destroyed the airport in Gaza.

    Israel does not allow exports. When it allows trucks through, the inspections don't just target weapons. They target important building and purification materials, etc. Plus, the supplies are seriously limited - it's not as if Israel is interested in these truck getting through.

    This is a blockade, an act of war leaving Gaza in survival mode.
     
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    That is not true. Israel stops ships and inspects them for war material. And then the ships proceed to Gaza.

    What products except for terrorism does Hamas produce for export? Nothing except for terrorism.
     
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    They should have thought about that before they elected Hamas to be their government, sending them into Israel to murder their citizens, and then giving them cover on their return.
     
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    This is not a war that started in October. Israel has warred on Gaza for 20 years straight.

    No people will withstand that without fighting back with whatever weapons they can manage.

    The root of the problem isn't who Gaza elected. Let's remember that Netanyahu's Likud party sees the very idea that there is ANY government in Gaza to be totally unacceptable - a travesty that must be removed.

    There is no question why Israel is carrying out genocide. And, the unbelievably despicable terrorist attack last October is only the proximate excuse for acting on Likud policy set at that party's inception.
     
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    Hamas started the current hostilities in the Gaza Strip in 2007.

    Israel is not committing genocide. The IDF is the most moral military in the history of the world. Hamas is dedicated to genocidal action against the Jews and the nation of Israel. That is so stated in their charter.

    Your contention that Israel is committing genocide has been shown repeatedly to be incorrect. Why do you continuously repeat it? The answer is that when repeating a faith based narrative facts don't matter.

    Why do you take the side of a terrorist organization committed, as stated in their charter, to genocide and destruction of a parliamentary democracy whose popultation includes 2 million Arab Israeli citizens? How many Jewish Gazan civilians are there? None - they all left willingly or were forced out by the Israeli government in 2005 when Israel left Gaza as a starting point of a two state solution. In my opinion the actions of Hamas have completely destroyed any possibility of a two state solution.
     
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    WHAT charter? I've asked this and you can not answer.
     
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    I have answered multiple times.
     
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    as opposed to some who wallow in anti semitic bigotry, Neo nazi nastiness or Jihadist extremism?
     
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    Sorry dude. The IDF is in Gaza because of Oct 7th. That's why Gaza is suffering. There was essentially nothing before that. There was no suffering in Gaza. Now there is because of Oct 7th. Does that not register with you. This was all a conspiracy between Hamas leaders in Qatar and Iran's leaders to derail the Abrahamic peace accords between Israel and Arab nations. So they sent their soulless Hamas zombies to wreak havoc in Israel.
     
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    Here is some reality for all those who blame Israel for the situation in the Gaza Strip. Why is the world via the United Nations and the Biden Administration not allowing and enforcing other countries to accept Gazan civilians caught in the "hell hole" created by Hamas. Because if Gazan refugees were allowed to flee the Gaza Strip via the southern Egyptian border or via rescue ships into the Mediterranean Sea the world could not blame Israel whilst it is Hamas which is to blame.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/playin...d_pos3#:~:text=After the tragic,Advertisement
     
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    Does this sound like genocide? Of course not. Netanyahu was vocal in opposing the decision made in 2005 for Israel to leave the Gaza Strip and to cede power to the PLO which within 1 year was replaced by the violent terrorist organization Hamas funded by Iran which contained in the Hamas charter the objective of genocide against Jews and the destruction of the nation of Israel. Hamas began launching attacks against Israeli civilians starting in 2007. This lesson has been learned. Once Hamas is eradicated from the Gaza Strip Netanyahu proposes that Israel work with Gazan citizens providing military protection to form a functional representative government in Gaza and once again become a safe, secure, and economically prosperous state as they were before Israel left in 2005. That is not genocide. It is the exact opposite.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/netany... Minister Benjamin,of Geopolitical Struggle.”
     
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    You're forgetting the first rule in any honest assessment of WW 2's realities: "The victors write the history" or as George Orwell observed:
    "Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
    George Orwell

    I'd be happy to discuss the Holocaust / WW 2 with you at the appropriate thread and refute the Allied / Hollywood / Holocaust Industry propaganda (1) you are reciting but this thread is about the systematic extermination tactics used by Netanyahu and his genocidal henchmen.

    As usual, I can support by my assertion that, in general, inmates in German WW 2 work camps received more food, water, shelter and medical care up to 1945 than Gaza's homeless, starving,(2) wounded, sick and mutilated native residents are currently experiencing.

    Israel's Defense Minister, Yoav Gallant declared:
    “We are imposing a complete siege on Gaza. No electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we will act accordingly.” (3)

    Israel''s right wing Netanyahu regime has made good on its threat to murder even more of Palestine's native residents through starvation, exposure and dehydration.

    Meanwhile, Allied doctors inspected the German kitchens and discovered that:
    "Despite noisily publicised claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has ever been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.” (4)

    In addition to numerous Nakba survivors, I have known, lived with and/or worked with almost a dozen Holocaust survivors and while some complained about the food, not one complained about a deliberate attempt to murder through starvation, exposure or dehydration as Yoav Gallant and other Zionist mass murderers are doing right in front of the poorly informed and professionally deceived Western MSM audience.

    We can't change the tragedies of the past but it is the obligation of every loyal American to defund today's blatant Zionist genocide.

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    (1). “The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
    https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut-KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder

    EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe." CONTINUED


    (2) "Policy paper: Israel’s policy of starvation in Gaza will have long-term effects, is causing famine [EN/AR]"
    https://reliefweb.int/report/occupi...ll-have-long-term-effects-causing-famine-enar

    EXCERPT "According to the IPC, which was cited in the Euro-med paper, the Strip is home to the highest percentage of people globally facing high levels of acute food instability in the last 20 years, at the very least. By 7 February of next year, approximately 53% of the population will be suffering from an extreme malnutrition emergency, and 26%—or roughly half a million people—will be suffering from famine. There will be a rise in the number of deaths caused by hunger, malnutrition, and related diseases, the report warned." CONTINUED


    (3). “A Textbook Case of Genocide”

    “Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?”


    https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide


    (4). “Allied Forensic Autopsies Confirm Disease, Not Gas”
    https://vk.com/@eric52-allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas

    EXCERPT "Dr. Russell Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed each day.

    Despite noisily publicised claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has ever been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.” CONTINUED
     
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    Wrong.
    https://www.ochaopt.org/content/movement-and-out-gaza-update-covering-august-2023
     
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    We have a Holocaust Denier. By all means start a new thread.
     
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    Israel and Egypt have imposed a naval blockade on Gaza since the violent takeover by Hamas in 2007.
     
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    Stop lying and show where I have ever denied that the Holocaust happened.

    There are already threads about WW 2 and the Holocaust; this one is about the longest and deadliest foreign funded genocide in modern history.

    What's your Hasbara script for justifying the machine gunning of starving and homeless women and children?
     
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    You posted links claiming that the Holocaust did not happen.

    Iran is funding Hamas whose charter states that all Jews should be killed (that's called genocide) and that the nation of Israel should be destroyed. Hamas has engaged in genocide of the Jewish people since 1988 (36 years and counting).

    Arab countries have been trying to destroy the nation of Israel established by the United Nations in 1947 since 1948. That's 76 years and counting.
     
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    exactly-I loved the claim that Auschwitz medical services to those who were detained at the threat of being shot was the same as Gaza. It's so far away from reality you have to wonder,
     
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    how many arabs/palestinians living in Israel have been exterminated by the Jewish government?
     
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    What is the Hamas plan to feed Gazans?
     
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    You are correct. I mistakenly thought that ships were coming in but being stopped for inspection which is an unworkable situation. In 2010 ships attempted to run the blockade but were stopped, searched, and turned back after war materials were discovered. Egypt has also joined the blockade and has destroyed homes on their side of the border to stop smuggling.
     
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