Israel Shooting Those Waiting for Food Aid

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  1. AFM

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    Additionally the blockade of Gaza by Israel is legal because the blockade was imposed after Hamas violently took control of the Gaza Strip in 2006 and started fired rockets and mortars into Israel targeting civilian neighborhoods.

    Dershowitz, Alan. Terror Tunnels: The Case for Israel's Just War Against Hamas (pp. 50-51). RosettaBooks. Kindle Edition.
     
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    So Hamas are responsible for the 30,000 dead Gazans? Who would be responsible if that number reached 50,000? Or 200,000 if starvation deaths start?
     
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    Even if no shots were fired (which is false), and even if it was a stampede for food aid, it is Israel that has blocked so much food aid to cause such desperation to cause such a stampede.
     
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    There was no excuse for bombing cities full of civilians. Unlike in Gaza, the Japanese did have military installations that could have been targeted I stead. The mere demonstration of the power probably would have been enough even way out at sea killing no one.
     
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    Yawn, still spreading disinformation about things that never happened?
     
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    No, that's not why they are guilty of such. You can fight against radical islamic terrorism without indiscriminately killing civilians, and even your own people who escaped from being hostages.
     
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    It is a lie to claim Israel indiscriminately kills civilians. An absolute lie and you know it is a lie.
     
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    That number from the Gazan Ministry of Health controlled by Hamas is most likely inflated. Also they number does not break out Hamas terrorist death and "civilian" deaths. According to the IDF ~ 15,000 of those are Hamas terrorists. And again most likely 80% of the additional 15,000 are "children" (under the age of 19) brainwashed by the Hamas charter as recruits for Hamas or individuals directly aiding Hamas or innocent civilians forced to be human shields by Hamas. Hamas admitted in response to the Goldstone report of 2009 that most of the reported civilian deaths were Hamas terrorists.

    And yes Hamas is responsible for all these deaths.
     
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    Their killing the escaped hostages, despite them being shirtless and hands up, and without making an attempt to identify them, clearly demonstrates indiscriminate killing to me.

    It's not just a matter of trying to kill only Hamas and not Palestinian civilians. They are even killing Israelis.
     
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    Faith based narratives ignore facts. It is quite hilarious to hear the woke defend Hamas who throw homosexuals off of tall buildings and condemn Israel which accepts homosexuality. But this is the day of postmodernism.
     
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    Please review the article that you posted on this matter.
     
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    It is even more hilarious to hear Netanyahu defenders endlessly pretend that anyone who criticizes Netanyahu must be defending Hamas.
    It is a complete failure of thinking.

    That sort of logic would also find anyone who criticizes Biden to be anti-American.
     
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    There is no excuse for Hamas hiding in cities. Israel has been demonstrating power for the last 17 years with no effect on Hamas driven by their genocidal charter.
     
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    Who is doing that?
     
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    Hamas is a terrorist organization who needs to be gotten rid of. That's no excuse for Netanyahu regime indiscriminately killing Palestinian civilians.
     
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    The IDF is the most moral military organization the world has ever seen. The ratio of Gazan civilians who have been acting or forced to act as human shields of Hamas terrorists and direct supporters to is less than 1 : 1. Typically the number ~ 4 : 1 civilian deaths per militant death.
     
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    The IDF is not indiscriminately killing Gazan civilians.
     
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    Not their job.

    Hamas's job is to give Israel hell until Israel submits.

    Israel's job is to feed everyone.

    https://www.icj-cij.org/node/203454
     
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    Yes. Most of the time Israel targets women and children on purpose. That and doctors, nurses, journalist, etc.

    Hamas only get killed incidentally.
     
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    Yes, a fundamental belief of National Socialist's and other leftists.
     
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    The U.S. military does and it's supposedly the most powerful military in the world.

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    The IOF does too, btw.
     
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    Sure it is. Hamas is the governing body in Gaza after violently taking control from the PA in 2006.
     
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    That is not true.
     
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    Maybe you can explain to me how the man below run over alive feet first by an Israeli tank or bulldozer acted like a human shield. Sorry, I can't give a name because the most moral army in the world took his I.D. and killed him in his underwear. And as you can see, they made sure identification would be difficult as best.

    4:1 is a fanciful fantasy. 1000:1 is more likely. However, Israel supporters have always lived in an alternate reality.

    https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6202
     
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    So what unless you are attempting some linkage by using a logical fallacy.
     
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