A solution in search of a problem.

IOW, you don't know. You should've just said that.

 

They are ILLEGALS. That's enough to have them removed.

 

Sure, who needs to understand nuance when over-generalizations provide the spin you desire eh?

I noticed you did not respond to the quote stating they voted when you had just gotten done claiming that it did not include voting.

You missed that one huh? You said it did not include voting, and as it turns out, it DOES. Did you catch that part?

 

Bull ****. No states allow or even can allow non-citizens to vote in federal elections. Where do you get this ****?

 

It's already the law. Why is the fringe right pretending it isn't? We already know the answer: to rile up the least informed among their base.

 

Every time somebody tried to show so-called evidence of ballot stuffing and the like, a more plausible explanation was found. It belongs in bullshit conspiracy land.

 

The process for undocumented immigrants to get a driver’s license varies by state, and can take months or even years. Undocumented immigrants generally need to provide a foreign birth certificate, foreign passport or consular card as well as evidence of current state residency, the NCSL says.
Therefore illegals can’t just go online to get a license. It’s a different process.

 

if that is true for mickey mouse, it's true for an Illegal.... but neither can actually vote, a registration is just a registration (hope that makes sense to you now)

 

Not knowing something is not "nuance". Did you catch that?

 

Who said that illegals can go online to get a license? What are you talking about? Nobody in this discussion is making that argument. This is a strawman if one ever existed.

 

But the link I provided is illegal immigrants having voted with their registration that they got by checking the box for motor voter registration. Did you miss that part?

Obviously they DID "actually vote", so NO, your reply does not make sense to me.

 

Sorry, when you said “checkbox” I was thinking online. So no, it’s not a straw man. It was a mistake.

 

DC, CA, MD, and VT allow allow noncitizens to vote in local elections like school boards, but they are not allowed to vote in federal elections. Georgia recently did an audit and found over the past 25 years, only 1634 noncitizens tried to register and none of them succeeded. There's no widespread fraud and like most things, Republicans manufacture issues. As far as allowing noncitizens to vote in local elections, I can see some of the arguments to support that. They may pay taxes in some form so goes to that 'no taxation without representation' mindset.

 

There is significant doubt among those who think critically and base their positions on evidence instead of pure emotion. Hence why you guys always fail to provide evidence and even get offended when asked for it.

 

Hmmm....Just a generalization of not knowing something is not nuance in and of itself.

BUT the explanation...

"Didn't I already say it is rare? Didnt I say it undoubtedly exists more than has been discovered? That should have made it obvious I am not claiming to have data showing how many. Your question is therefore disingenuous. You already know my answer. If you want to state "but there is no data proving how many" or something to that effect that would be a legitimate retort. Disingenuously asking a question that you know the answer is just being obtuse.

While I did not necessarily say it is "easy", it IS occurring in states with motor voter registration. That is the mechanism that would make it possible. While going to register to vote separately would require clear intent of trying to get on voter rolls illegally, simply checking a box to be registered (which is what motor voter is) when getting your drivers license could legitimately be argued to be a simple mistake, especially for someone not overly familiar with the English language."






IS nuance. It provides far more detail regarding what is or is not known. Apparently, you dont like having detail added to your discussions.

 

Asking for evidence of the correctness of opinions is pretty silly, don't you think? Opinions aren't facts. They are just opinions. Opinions are what we all do here.

 

So no claims require any evidence anymore? That's the most intellectually dishonest position I could possibly think of. And he didn't express it as just his opinion. He made a statement of fact. He's a big boy. He can, theoretically, defend his position.

 

Opinions ought to be premised upon facts.

 

Do you ever post anything but spin and B/S? You think a state law can be appealed to SCOTUS? Well, in your case, not under Trump or Putin.....so it's understandable that you'll quote me and gas light stuff that hasn't even happened EVER. **** states rights correct (only when it suits you)?

To sum up, it's against the law for non citizens to vote.

 

Hell no, America can't have any wins or even draws when Dear C*** Leader isn't in power.

 

MAGA facts are like the wind...

 

You really do need to read the news once in a while. A survey a few years back showed that around a million illegals claim to have voted.

 

Why yours are just based on some one else's opinion

 

I agree, however, democrats are counting on volume sufficient to overwhelm the practicality of such an option. And they have achieved that volume.

 

This kinda of B/S propaganda is something I would expect from a Kremlin internet operator hell bent on turning America against itself and to undermine democracy. Non-citizens voting is against the law PERIOD. And your last sentence is filled with innuendo and assumptions hence gas lighting. Do better...