End of Freedom of Speech or a blow for Journalistic integrity?

gin is not an offensive term, abbos use it for all their woman

 

No, darlin' we ARE working toward some resolutions and improvements - it is slow but it is happening, have hope. Our indigenous people are slowly coming out from the hidden areas and they are SHINING!!

The problem arises in that unlike other dark skinned people the inheritance of dark skin is not straight forward for our indigenous people. You have a "black" African man marry a "White" Hawaiian woman and you get someone with the skin colour that a certain US politician has. If, however his father had been Australian Indigenous he might have inherited any one of a range of skin tones from very fair through to very dark

Remember that our indigenous people are the only ones in the world who have natural "blondes" in among the full blood dark skinned people



We see it a lot around here - the kids are utterly gorgeous!!

 

biggest mistake white aussies have ever made is to teach the abbos how to claim the dole

 

It is an incredibly offensive and degrading term

and no "indigenous person" I know uses such a term! And I live in a district where a large percentage of people are indigenous. When you use terms such as "abbo" you are showing your own disdain for the people.

Ask yourself - which shows the greater respect for the person

"The overweight woman"

"The fat (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)"

 

nothing more than P/C cr@p..
abo is a perfectly good term as is gin

 

And B*itch is a perfectly good term for woman - only use it anywhere near the average Aussie woman and be prepared to replace your head back on your shoulders

Really there is a well known syndrome that causes people to feel the need to use derogatory terms

a) ignorance of the vast majority of the English language that is replete with terms that do not have derogatory overtones

b) low self esteem and the need to "put someone else down so you feel better about yourself"

 

Which says a lot about the tolerance of our aboriginal people.

Now turnabout is always fair play. How would you react if they started calling you "whitey" or a "red neck bogan"?

Would THOSE terms be as acceptable to you?

But I am betting that this is just "internet talk" which means on line bravado that does not occur in practice

 

been called a red neck at the pub...only ever happened once..
Funny that the abo's are ok with it but our P/C freaks are not.....

 

And if every single day someone called you an "Illiterate red neck bogan" do you not think that would have a subtle and demeaning affect on your self esteem? There has been research study after research study showing this DOES diminish a person's sense of self worth and it does make them want to give up and stop striving to be better. In other words it sets them up to lose


And you blame THEM for not being "more"

 

How do you know they have not applied for those jobs? If the rest of the town displays the attitude toward indigenous people that has been displayed here I am betting that they would not BE hired. I would love to see a link to the "jobs only abos can apply for" as well because that appears to be a claim without basis

As for the myth of the "brand new home" whenever I have traced that story back there is never any real truth in it....................

 

There is truth in it...the houses got built right at the end of the road we lived in..
If you go into a centerlink office they will supply you with all the info on ABO ONLY jobs.

 

He's right. If you look on job search websites, like jobsearch, there are some jobs listed that are listed as being an 'Indigenous Job'.
That sucks because it is often a job that I would be capable of, as I am searching for another job. It is often a retail job, and I go to apply for it, and then see the message under the job description. It is unfair because they are asking for Aboriginal applicants over a white person who could possibly do the job better.

I can try and find you a link to a job that is listed as being an Indigenous job, if you like.

As for the use of the term 'Abo', to me, its just a shortened version of Aboriginal, much like Aussie is a shortened version of Australian.

 

And N*igger is "just" a slang form of "negro". It does not matter how WE perceive the word - it is the connotations that have become attached to that word over the years. Abo is as derogatory a term as n*igger and should be expunged from our language until the hurt that it caused has been forgotten and forgiven

As for the "jobs" I am aware there are some centrelink schemes that are designed to try and get more indigenous people into tertiary studies so we have a core group of role models for the rest. The scheme I know of though is NO sinecure and it requires them to work full time while studying full time - something even white people will have difficulty with. The experience we have had here though is that the UNIVERSITY jerked the poor students around by not offering the courses they needed to stay in the program

There are some "assistance" programs that give the employer a subsidy for employing an indigenous person. And if we ever want to break the cycle of unemployment then this is the way. Don't forget that a significant amount of indigenous people live outside the capital cities and many many of them live and work in places like Doomadgee where there ARE no job opportunities unless they move out of town and away from "family"

 

I agree, the term "abo" is totally harmless and not at all offensive, unless one is of the wowserish disposition of perpetually searching for an outlet for their hysterical indignation. These same wowser types once used to submit to convulsions of delicious outrage, at the mention of words like "LEG". OOOOOHHHHH, a table has LIMBS, not those unmentionables!!!!

BWAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!

 

I dont think the ruling will stop other journos from doing similar, but if you think that freedom of speech is still healthy and alive then i salute you.

Journalistic integrity you say, i couldn't give two hootes whether these two fellows are from an aboriginal background or not.

There are far more important things to report about whats happening in this world imo.

Too bad we are always fed crap to keep our minds of the real issues.

 

Hardly. It's nothing like that at all. The term "Abo" is derogatory and disrespectful to the Indigenous. Yet you compare it to the shortened "Aussie" for Australian? Good grief, Mak.

YOU have more chance of getting any general kind of job over an Indigenous person... because take into account that some employers will turn out to be as racist as say some of the people on this forum... yet you and others complain about the odd job here and there designated to the Indigenous?

I'm sure there are racist employers out there that mirror the same racists on this forum. So don't fret too much. Because there are far more jobs available to you than the Indigenous, who have to suffer such racism as evidenced, for example, on this thread.

 

It IS an offensive term.

You post like the veritable gutter. Says more for you than anything else.

Your literacy is appalling - yet you demean the Indigenous over this and that? You want to take the Indigenous to task... with your illegible, gibberish nonsense?

Good grief, lift your game.

 

The terms "abo", and "gin" are not at all offensive at all. Those who object to these terms are simply objecting to the reputation that some of the bearers of these titles have earned for themselves, hiding their heads in the sand. I do quite a lot of work for indigenous housing, and I like the spirit of aborigines, abos, darkies. A lot of them, who know me, or know of me call me "spook", as a reference to my white skin, we often joke about our skin colours, because it doesn`t matter.

Aborigines in general, need urgently to adapt to modern life, lying about their problems, and denying the truth, might be a feel good for wowsers, but it`s hell on the aborigines.

 

No they do not need to "adapt" to modern life - they do however need to walk one of the most difficult roads known - that of living within two DIFFERENT cultures. We see how difficult this is for immigrants, including those who came here from Europe but we do not give the same respect to our Indigenous who actually have to reconcile cultural differences that are even more diverse

As for the terms - it says more for the Aboriginal people, who are now preferring the terms "Murri" and "Koori" to derogatory terms like "abo" and "gin".

 

Abo and Gin aren't terms for modern times.

Back on track......

I recon Bolt will dig deeper and deeper on every issue he gets hold of now.

LOOK OUT!!

 

Americans dont have absolute freedom of speech, where did you get that bizarre idea from?

 

Just like N***** in the US, i guess.

 

thats the problem right there....









you guessed.

 

We dont live in the US and I dont think we should be taking our cultural clues from the US. We all know which terms are derogatory in Australia, this crap you and others are espousing here is just posturing.I have lived in Australia most of my life and I work with aboriginal people every day, I have never heard one call another an abo or refer to a female as a gin.

 

What makes you think "the fellas" will get to them? And why are young boys anuses such an important topic for you?