Corrupt Australian Government Sells Innocent Schapelle Corby For Political Expediency

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  1. diligent

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    Makedde

    Yes you did, here is the quote from your post:

    'A fair trial according to the Indonesian system. NOT according to ours'.

    You should be careful what you post, as you will be found out!
     
  2. Simbainoz

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    You cannot possibly know for certain that he meant this, and only this.

    You are hanging on, doggedly, to Sugiarto’s statement, and yet, if there was no footage, how do you explain the above?

    Footage or no footage, Schapelle and her lawyers asked for it, on numerous occasions, in the expectation that it was available. If the footage was going to show that Schapelle was lying, and that the Customs Officer was telling the truth, there’s no way that she would have asked for it, not even once, let alone on numerous occasions.

    While on the subject of Schapelle’s word, versus that of the Customs Officer, how many of you have seen this ‘60 Minutes’ segment? http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/stories/847286/unmasking-the-truth

    Two human lie detectors analysed, amongst other things, Schapelle’s interview with Liz Hayes in late 2004, in which she stated that she had willingly opened her boogie-board bag for inspection, without being asked to, and that she had not acted suspiciously in any way. In this interview she also denied owning the marijuana, or admitting that she owned it. While this segment does not show the full interview, I know what Schapelle said, as I have seen and heard the full interview on a number of occasions.

    Dr Paul Ekman couldn’t call it, one way or the other, but Professor David Canter was convinced that Schapelle was telling the truth.

    If Schapelle was telling the truth, then the Customs Officer, and the two Anti-drug Squad Officers who backed him up, despite being some distance from the Customs Counter in a busy airport, and not being able to speak English, must have lied.
     
  3. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

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    Corby is a CONVICTED DRUG SMUGGLER....
    She got off lightly for what she done...she should have been shot.
     
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    It was cannabis. How can you say she got off "lightly"?

    You seriously think that a 20 year sentence for cannabis is getting off lightly?

    How do you come to that ridiculous conclusion?

    [Let's put aside for a minute that I believe capital punishment should never be used, for any crime ... ]

    Those who support capital punishment usually say it should be used on murderers, rapists, pedophiles, and terrorists.

    Now, how can the crime of smuggling cannabis be in any way compared with any of the major crimes mentioned above?
     
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    Yep..when comparing it with a death sentence.



    How do you come to that ridiculous conclusion?



    All drug smugglers should be shot, its a very serious crime and should be dealt with as such. It makes no difference if its pot or white powder the crime is the same.
     
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    I find your view absolutely amazing. I'm guessing you don't actually understand the effects of different drugs which is why you are putting them all in the same category.

    For example, do you know how many people have died as a direct result of smoking cannabis? I do ...

    "The acute toxicity of cannabis and the cannabinoids is very low; no-one has ever died as a direct and immediate consequence of recreational or medical use.

    Official statistics record two deaths involving cannabis (and no other drug) in 1993, two in 1994 and one in 1995 but these were due to inhalation of vomit."


    Anyway, facts asided, I'm curious to know what other "very serious crimes" governments should be able to kill people for.

    How about speeding: speeding is the direct cause of many deaths on our roads.

    Drink driving: this causes many deaths too.

    How about speeding and drink driving: should people be put to death for those crimes too?

    Where do you draw the line at governments killing their citizens?
     
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    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    You bigoted people are disgusting, you rant and rave about how bad a criminal she was, on the flimsiest of evidence, by a country renowned for corruption amongst the authorities.

    Saying garbage like that immediately negates your credibility.
    The hundreds of relatives of those killed in the Bali bombings are the ones who suffer the most out of this.

    Seeing the bombers nearly applauded by the Indonesian officials, well why shouldn't they be. The crime of murdering hundreds of Australians is not as bad as smuggling 3 kilograms of cannabis into a country already chock a block full of it now is it?
     
  8. efjay

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    A crime is a crime and people making excuses for a convicted drug smuggler make me sick.
    If it was just flimsy evidence then she would have got off yeah...
    I am bigoted in your view cos i will not swallow the same lies and deceit that you have.
     
  9. Kazikli Bey

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    Because, why else would he say it? He's was her defense lawyer.

    Your link says nothing of the CCtV footage.
     
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    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    A question, I am fascinated by your signature.
    If someone was
    anti-violence,
    anti-murder,
    anti-rape,
    anti-crime,
    anti-uncivilized behavior,
    anti-ignorance and
    anti-drugs
    as mr zook appears to be

    How can they be racist, when racists are
    violent,
    murders,
    rapists,
    criminals,
    uncivilized,
    and ignorant?

    Not changing the subject, just waiting for your reply?
     
  11. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

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    If you like you can take it up with the person that wrote it.
     
  12. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Yes but it's in your signature, you must have an opinion?

    When it comes to racism the militant right leaves everyone else for dead as far as violence, murders, rapists, criminals, uncivilized, and ignorant?

    Well that's my opinion anyway. I know I am generalising.
     
  13. efjay

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    yep thats YOUR opinion. now please stop sidetracking this thread with stupid stuff like YOUR opinion on my sig..thanks
     
  14. efjay

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    you are the one saying that Africans are less civilized not me. Or are you only racist when is "suits" you?
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    She was convicted based on nothing more than flimsy evidence.
     
  16. efjay

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    She was convicted on the merit of the evidence against her. That you dont agree with it colours how YOU perceive that evidence.
     
  17. diligent

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    Well this is an interesting comment isn't it:

    'When it comes to racism the militant right leaves everyone else for dead as far as violence, murders, rapists.'

    Evidently you must have lived in a dark and gloomy cloud (or a shroud?)the last fifty years or more. Or maybe you are too young to remember, because your ignorant teachers preferred that you remain in the dark about the millions killed, maimed and/or tortured by the well known Left Wing thugs, going by the name of Stalin and Mao. Oh yes, according to your teachers, these two merciless thugs were just benign Knights in Shining Armour!

    Oh! I forgot to mention the Esteemed leader of North Korea who allows his people starve to death, and the late vicious, unlamented Pol Pot who starved, (after torturing them) nearly half of Cambodia's population to death (did your teachers tell you about them?).
     
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    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Wrong, the thread is about the trial being corrupt.
     
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    So here you disagree with the court, but in Chapelle's case you agree. I just think your an antagonist looking for an argument, I mean the only argument you have is that the court said so,.
     
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    Proof, if your calling him a lier, proof would be nice.
     
  21. efjay

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    In the corby case only a complete MORON would say she didnt do it...
    In the "baby took my dingo" case there are many questions not fully answered by either side.
     
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    Every point that has been put up by corby supporters has been shot down as either lies or just plain fairy tales.
     
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    DominorVobis care to deal with this ... you are fast to point out I am a racist and how wrong that is in YOUR opinion BUT you have said that west africans are not civilized....please explain... are you saying the africans are savages
     
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    No, someone who has kept an open mind would think that there were a few problems with the case...
     
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    When i looked at it all i had an open mind. I dont believe in fairy tales Mak...
    I believe that both of the corby girls should be held to acco8unt for this. but thats just my opinion.
     
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