Negative Attitudes Towards Islam On the Rise in Europe

Yep.

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=37351

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatwa_on_Terrorism

Hmmm....an exhaustive, doctrinally based denunciation of terrorism? Who would have thought? Perhaps you should look.

 

^^ It's like they think these don't exist...

Better qestion is what is the media doing to create the negative attitudes about Islam?

Salam

 

Neither is noble or reasonable.

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Those are religious bodies????


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Agh, another ignorant rant from someone who clearkly cannot debate.

I do appreciate a poster with a icon of a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)r pointing a gun claiming that actual, honor based warriors with historical reputations are ... unreasonable to him.

The intent is merely to maign others - and teh substance of your contributions is noted - which is nothing.

 

Really? Do you have a source?

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So what exactly do you call it when the Hindus attack?

Ayodhya India ring any bells?

How about the old IRA?

Abortion Clinic bombing? Oklahoma City?

You do realize that the neo-Nazi's have their own brand of 'Christianity'?

 

Sure, try google. Try also the Sun King.

Its an easily established fact, and laziness is not a rebuttal.

Do you have an alternate theory?

Once again, the ability to debate is lacking.

 

OMG... err, Oh my Allah. So silence by supposedly good people while their kindred kill innocents is due to media BS?

Wow... what cowardly meek sheep Islam followers must be for that to be true?

 

Aside from the fact that Phobic is the incorrect word for this, as it's not a "phobia" when fears are justified fears. Take for example the brtown snake in Austrailia one of the most venomous an dangerous snakes we know of. Being afraid, and thus usuing extreme caution while dealing with and handling the snake because over time you have seen/know/learned that they are very very dangerous after God only knows the number of Human beings were bitten andf died.

A healthy fear, one which is based upon facts and evidence is not "phobia" it's wise.

Because we have all seen what Islamics do when they are faced with a civilized, modern, post fourth century standards of living. Flying planes into buildings to kill as many innocent civilians as they can, because well the quran says to do so.

So while yes I am sure there is going to be liberal leftist propagandist traitorous allies of these moozlims, claiming that these people are "islamaphobic" the fact of the matter is, their own acts justify that fear, of Islam, thus it is not Islamicphobic it is a healthy, learned behavior, in response to the behavior of militant moozlims who have committed terror attacks killing and mass slaughtering their loved ones, friends, co-workers, and fellow citizens. Time and time again.

 

It really depends on the leadership of the group. Is it a secular state, Marxist terror group, or a group of Islamists calling them the swordarm of allah, or some other such nonsense.

 

That's a very emotional, venom-dripping post there. Are you sure that you are a warrior?
You don't seem to have the temperament, and we get a lot of sock-puppets here.

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It seems that you are wrong. Germany is not France.


"Weltpolitik
Term applied to German foreign policy after about 1890, which represented Emperor Wilhelm II's attempt to make Germany into a world power through an aggressive foreign policy on colonies and naval..."

Found on http://www.encyclo.co.uk/local/20688


What was that about lacking???



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Let me know when you detail the 18000 murders in the USA last year.

What, you are silent?

Hmmm....your stanard of judgement - and both holy books warn about this do they not?

 

Very interesting. Here we have a Canadian Muslim teenager advocating for a one state Islamic caliphate. The same person who once said that he "supports HAMAS all the way", even though they are a listed terrorist group according to the US Department of Justice.

This is what "moderates" look like in Western societies. They are not here to integrate with the West... they are here to infiltrate and colonize the West from within for Islam. They are fulfilling their religious duty to bring the entire world under the umbrella of dar al Islam, as commanded by Muhammad's words in the Qur'an. Borders mean nothing to Muslims, they do not see themselves as members of any nation, and belong to the worldwide collective of Muslims known as the ummah. That is why we should not look at them as fellow members of our nation. They don't see themselves that way, so why should we?

 

Relevance to Islam? That would be what is lacking.

Your aversion to it?

Glad you can use google after the fact.

Try also Hobbesian.

And I stand corrected, the term applied to the Sun King is Absolutism. Yet another term our freind here will have to look up.

 

Huh? Which murders were done by my kindred in the name of my religion? I think all types of criminals are scum, including those who claim to do so in the name of their god. I oppose them all, vocally and with my money(as little as it is) and with my voice and vote.

If you can identify some group of people like me who are killing innocents in the name of their cause, let me know and I will be glad to voice my opposition against them as well as immediately turn them in to authorities if I actually know anything about them.

How bout you? Are you willing to do that too with regard to your Islamic terrorist friends?

 

find more HERE:

http://www.swi.org/blog/look-whos-on-the-move-an-in-depth-breakdown-of-islam/ This is for some posters who have missed my link. I regret that i can't get more specific. The initial was provided to me by an acquaintance with the link coming later. Hopefully this will be helpful. I apologize for the problems with timing.

 

Here is what is going to happen, either get on topic or get banned from the thread.

 

So what? Christianity doesn't condone that and hasn't for a long long time.

Islam has always had one goal: Conquest of the world and has no problem with killing anyone who doesn't agree with Islam.

Killing is SOP. Jihad is SOP.
World domination has been the goal forever.
It has been that way for centuries. It is still that way now.

Why do you stick up for such a violent "religion" ?
What's in it for you???

 

Most Muslims do not condone the killing any more than do Christians. Yes, just like us, they will defend themselves.

Islam has the same goal as the Catholic Church, the Mormons, Pentacostals, etc. There is nothing wrong with healthy, respectful competition. The fact that each of the participants believes he or she is right?

Well, welcome to large scale debate.

 

If killing were SOP as you claim those thousands and thousands of American who have worked in the ME and North Africa for decades would be dead......

 

September 17, 2008

Ethnocentric Attitudes Are on the Rise in Europe

Unfavorable Views of Jews and Muslims on the Increase in Europe

http://www.pewglobal.org/2008/09/17/unfavorable-views-of-jews-and-muslims-on-the-increase-in-europe/

 

#1 - quite being a jerk. Just because someone acknowledges that most Muslims are moderate and non-violent does not make them a terrorist. That is just unacceptable hyperbole and has no bearing on a civilized discussion.

It just so happens that I am combat vet, and have actually gone out after very real terrorists - and killed them. I do so with many, many Muslims. So you tell me whether or not that makes me a terrorist or a terrorist symathizer.

#2 - The IRA killed a few British bobbies last year alone. The Lrds resistance Army killed, raped, maimed, and introduced the world to horrors of child warfare.

Not a peep from those who think Islam is violent.

#3 - the bottom line is that those who make claims such as your will never be taken seriously by actual scholars of war. the reasons for fighting are generally complex, usually traced back to leadership and seeking of power and dominion over resources or men. Religion can be used to inflame or reduce the nasty tendancies that erupt in warfare.

That is why we pay far more attention to character of men we send off to war, as opposed to their religion.

 

Of course anti Muslim sentiment is on the rise in Europe.....middle easterners and Africans are the European equivelant to what are illegal hispanic workers in the US

When I lived in Turkey....my nickname around the neighborhood used to be "Hans"...because many Turks have migrated to Germany for years as a labor class. The German welcomed them, and were simply annoyed by them, untill the economy hit a few bumps, and unemployment went up, then all of the sudden, the Germans started really resenting thier presence.

Sound familar?