Gov Scott Walker's "tax plan" is discriminatory

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  1. Subdermal

    Subdermal Banned

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    I predict this as well. I think that Walker will win by about 7%.
     
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    2 teachers and an aide for 20-30 students. Seriously? Talk about over kill. No wonder milwaukee school district is in financial ruins.

    BTW - as a statistics guy, you need a larger sample size. Not just the milwaukee area.
     
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    He could win, but it will be tight depending on who runs. I am hoping for Feingold still.
     
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    That is overkill with the amount of teachers, but I do agree with him, he balanced the budget on the backs of teachers and children.
     
  5. Subdermal

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    This has nothing to do with children, Mr. "Appeal to Emotion".

    It has to do with bloated compensation packages and insane administration costs.

    All bought and paid for with forced Union membership dues, and contrived Collective Bargaining, which both FDR, and the former head of the AFL-CIO (George Meany) said was imprudent.

    We are reversing this wrong, and correcting a budget imbalance as a result.

    You have no leg upon which to stand.
     
  6. christian_guy

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    Dairyair
    I am not disputing the sample size issue. However if Walker says schools improved…. and in the Milwaukee & Racine area they did just the opposite then that information casts huge doubt on the previously compiled Walker data.
    Secondly Walker claimed 13:1 ratio of students to teachers. National average is 15:1 ( as stated by subdermal) . Before Walker the MPS and Racine schools, I am aware of, were in that range. Now they are almost double the ratio. If it was a single school I could make an exception and say it was not the rule. However when I have many other friends who have children in other schools report the same I tend to think the data needs to be reexamined and therefore the Walker data is corrupted or manipulated somehow.
    My direct experience with Fairview is it was one of the best in the city with a 2 yr waiting list and a very high average GPA vs other schools. How can one teacher maintain focus on 28 students at a single time? In privatized schools such as MSOE , ITT & MATC the classes are limited to about a max of 18 students per class with some exceptions (I went to all 3). Why do you think they do that? They could certainly make more money with larger class sizes!
    When you state things like “2 teachers and an aide for 20-30 students. Seriously?” you are professing about information you know little about or have poor experience with. I doubt you know the real difficulties of a good education.In schools the more students the less time the teacher has to devote to each student. Do you need a explanation of why this is a problem at a 28:1 ratio? (BTW: I don't mean to be mean about the last statement)
     
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    The people participating in the schools themselves say that the schools have improved; I've already posted the data that proves it, and it's from Wisconsin School Administrators themselves!

    Then prove otherwise. All I see is bloated school bureaucracy, and hugely inflated costs.

    Which districts ignored Walker's reforms, and passed their Union contracts in advance of Walker's reforms?

    MPS did, and they signed new contract with their teachers before Walker's reforms took place. They as a result are reaping what they sow. Racine is and was against School Choice, so they as well are laying the bed of their own making.

    You learnin' anything yet?

    The same way my teacher did when I was in grade school.

    Did you just attempt to equate grade school with colleges?

    I think we all understand. It comes down to having good teachers - and now we have a system in place which will recognize and reward them.
     
  8. dairyair

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    As subdermal stated above, Racine and MPS did themselves a disservice by not waiting for walkers plans to take place.
    You do not need 2.5 teachers for 20-30 students. 1 per 30 may be high but certainly not 1 per 20.
    And I'll assume your friends are in the MPS area so you all have the same data input and is to small a sample area.
     
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    So you're now a man without a political party? Everything you deflect on Walker is the Democrat party modus operandi.
     
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    They have nothing but kook blogs. Here's something to sink your teeth into which invalidates them:

    http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/2450

    Quite simply, the left hates seeing conservatism work because it invalidates their ideology.

    Ask them how many teaching, fire and police jobs his legislation has saved. It should be a concept they can understand considering we continuously get fed the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) line that Obama and his Porkulus created or saved 3 million jobs.
     
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    Why don't you ask all of those liberal lions like Gates, Buffett and Ellison?
     
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    You don't do anything but post your opinion. There is a forum for that. This is not it. In this forum, posting links to help with your opinions is a must. Something you need to learn here in the big boy forum.
     
  13. Subdermal

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    New information:

    According to truethevote.org, the recall petitioners have fallen ~5,500 votes short of the requisite number needed to force a recall. Fascinating, considering the sheer number of supposed "signatures" they submitted.

    This, of course, requires Scott Walker's campaign to challenge, and I do not think they did/will, as I do not believe they were given enough time to thoroughly investigate truethevote.org's research. Here is their white paper:

    http://www.truethevote.org/reports/walker-exec-summary.pdf
     

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